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The protests of the 60s and early 70s did change the world--they just didn't create the "utopia" that people thought they could create. Good things came out of it though, like the civil rights movements for minorities, the push for women's rights and equal pay, the birth of the environmental movement, and our willingness as a country to question authority and our leaders. My parents are from the WWII generation, and the idea of questioning the government was completely foreign to them.
In fact all those good things have went very. very bad.
The civil rights movement seems to not have worked out very well...this country is racially polarized.
The womens rights and equal pay? Womens pay is still not equal. But don't tell them it's because they chase useless degrees.
The environmental movement..remember all those DON'T LITTER commercials and PSA's? Well they have turned into a special interest propaganda fest of THE WORLD IS GOING TO MELT IF YOU DON'T GIVE GREEN INDUSTRIES A MONOPOLY ON ENERGY NOW!!
Questioning the government has led us to the point where people just remain apathetic. What's worse is there is much more awareness as there was. The rape over of this country is happening in front of our face. The government doesn't even hide it anymore. To make it worse, this generation doesn't care that they are being watched and data mined perpetually. What's the point of talking the talk of counterculture if you are going to be pro-establishment?
Yea, pretty much. In fact, that is exactly it. A youngster that follows the herd. The labels don't matter today....this generation are a bunch of vaginas.
Oh, ok-your opinion, but I'm a twenty-something that certainly follows no herd.
People back then had to go to libraries to get videos, YouTube didn't exist neither did the internet.....we didn't even have phones to download music to! A lot of people were not tuning in or dropping out. I grew up in California at this time and hippies didn't have the best reputation.....heck most people hung with them for their drugs not their message.
GASP! I don't know how we survived by buying vinyl albums, listening to the radio, watching music shows on TV, and going to live performances (which were everywhere). The entire culture revolved around music during that era. I lived outside of the US for a year in the 1970s, and music videos were on TV there, but not so much in the US until MTV launched them in 1981. I remember sitting in front of the TV with my friends for hours completely transfixed when they first started running them. VCR players were incredibly expensive until later in the 1980s, so it wasn't a 60s and early 70s thing.
You are correct on this--the internet has changed the face of social movements, because you can have instant communication across the world and the country to organize and share ideas. That wasn't the case in the 60s and 70s, which is probably another factor in why most of the dissent was centered on college campuses. In addition to college students being personally concerned about the draft, campuses were geographically centralized groups of people who had a personal stake in the issues, who could easily get together to discuss them, and had the time to do something about them.
Indeed. And people forget that people like George W Bush and Hillary Clinton were pot smoking hippies back in their heyday. It's simply a youth movement and has nothing to do with politics. Eventually they grow out of it and become international bankers and corrupt politicians.
Oh they do, do they?
So we're all politicians and bankers.
None of them are teachers, social workers, farmers, parents, artists, office workers, living on the earth, etc...
BTW, it had a bit to do with politics, especially the Viet Nam war.
How about those dead kids at Kent and Jackson State?
Or wasn't that political?
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Uhhhhhhh, young people were out protesting-living on Wall Street and in cities around the globe for Months.
Yea, with NO direction...looking like a bunch of FOOLS.
You know what was funny about that OWS circus? You had a bunch of agendas rolled up into one homogeneous blob. And they were canceling each other out.
You would have one Transgender Maoist yelling right next to an Anarcho-Capitalist.
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Your generation (born in 59?) chose to follow the Corporate Media script of division and villified these protesters as they were beaten and pepper sprayed by our militarized police forces.
Blockading the walkway at your community college campus because you want your school to pay for your dental and health benefits is a pretty efficient way to get your skull cracked. They actually deserved it for such a stupid and worthless protest.
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Wars for Capitalism have been going on for decades-that is nothing new in the good ol US of A. Income inequality has been a gradual and persistent phenomenon but intensified under Dubya. Millenials were all younger than 18 years old when he was elected.
Have you checked to see how much it intensified under Obama? And who is the MOST responsible for voting him in?
Uhhhhhhh, young people were out protesting-living on Wall Street and in cities around the globe for Months.
Your generation (born in 59?) chose to follow the Corporate Media script of division and villified these protesters as they were beaten and pepper sprayed by our militarized police forces.
Wars for Capitalism have been going on for decades-that is nothing new in the good ol US of A. Income inequality has been a gradual and persistent phenomenon but intensified under Dubya. Millenials were all younger than 18 years old when he was elected.
BS.
I was proud of Occupy. It was the first time in a few generations that people became activists.
But don't let your bias stop you from dismissing an entire group of people that preceded you.
In fact all those good things have went very. very bad.
The civil rights movement seems to not have worked out very well...this country is racially polarized.
The womens rights and equal pay? Womens pay is still not equal. But don't tell them it's because they chase useless degrees.
The environmental movement..remember all those DON'T LITTER commercials and PSA's? Well they have turned into a special interest propaganda fest of THE WORLD IS GOING TO MELT IF YOU DON'T GIVE GREEN INDUSTRIES A MONOPOLY ON ENERGY NOW!!
Questioning the government has led us to the point where people just remain apathetic. What's worse is there is much more awareness as there was. The rape over of this country is happening in front of our face. The government doesn't even hide it anymore. To make it worse, this generation doesn't care that they are being watched and data mined perpetually. What's the point of talking the talk of counterculture if you are going to be pro-establishment?
Again--you have no idea what you're talking about, but that sure doesn't seem to stop you. When you compare where the world started in the 1960s and where we are now on issues like civil rights, women's rights, the environment, etc., we've made monumental changes. We just aren't all the way there yet. It will come with time. Big changes take generations.
Your questioning the government and authority comment is just....silly. In fact, the tea party, of all groups, can thank the 1960s for their willingness to get in peoples faces and fight for change that they believe in. I can't stand the tea party, but that type of dissent would have been impossible in the past. This country goes through periods of apathy and activism on either side of the aisle--everything is part of a cycle that rotates in and out.
My point is not that the 1960s made the world perfect--just that it set the stage for the beginning of monumental cultural changes that we're still sorting/working through today, and we will be for generations. It was the birth of many movements.
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I don't know how we survived by buying vinyl albums, listening to the radio, watching music shows on TV, and going to live performances (which were everywhere). The entire culture revolved around music during that era. I lived outside of the US for a year in the 1970s, and music videos were on TV there, but not so much in the US until MTV launched them in 1981. I remember sitting in front of the TV with my friends for hours completely transfixed when they first started running them. VCR players were incredibly expensive until later in the 1980s, so it wasn't a 60s and early 70s thing. 
