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View Poll Results: Intelligent Design?
Yes, teach it along with Evolution 22 15.28%
No, teach only Evolution 121 84.03%
No, teach only Intelligent Design 1 0.69%
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:50 AM
 
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You're going to have to be a bit more forthright on what you are trying to convey. Not being a mind reader, I will need some clarification.

When a teacher gets to the part about theories, they say there are several predominant ones and we will explore each one over the next few days.

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Not really.
Theories are not simply ideas pulled out of one's nether regions.
Here's the definition of scientific theory:

http://www.livescience.com/21491-wha...of-theory.html
A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. If enough evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, it moves to the next step—known as a theory—in the scientific method and becomes accepted as a valid explanation of a phenomenon.

Want to tell me how many times intelligent (hahahaha) design has been supported with anything but religious hoopla and fantasy?

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some high schools have theology classes already. I say If parents want it taught so bad, instead of trying to make science teachers teach it, they just make sure the school has a theology class.
And spend equal time (to the minute) on every diety that ever existed.
Or send their kids (at their own expense) to religious school.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:50 AM
 
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No we don't dismiss things that aren't verifiable...we just don't claim them as law. But we still seek to validate if there are enough legitimate questions to be answered.

The golden mean provides plenty of those.
The golden mean is taught in math, biology, and art. It is verifiable, unlike intelligent design. "God did it" is not science. Keep your mythical beings in church, or mythology class, where they belong.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:52 AM
 
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The golden mean is taught in math, biology, and art. It is verifiable, unlike intelligent design. "God did it" is not science. Keep your mythical beings in church, or mythology class, where they belong.
Intelligent design is not Creationism...you are conflating the two.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:55 AM
 
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Isn't science a tool to test and observe? Why are you trying to stuff science into a box? As if only scientific fact should be taught and nothing questioned or tested?

You homosexuals are really nailing your coffin shut in this thread.

Do you REALLY love science? Or just piggyback along in your hatred of Religion?

science is not a tool to facilitate your disdain.
We are talking about public schools, as in k-12. Not much in the way of ground breaking research going on there. If colleges want to add ID to their curriculum, go for it, in fact there are many that do.

Science in K-12 is laying a foundation. If we build that foundation on unproven junk, what do you think will happen?
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:56 AM
 
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Well if that is the case...neither do your quackish studies for your own confirmation bias with skewed algorithms for error correction, fancy pictures and garbage data sets... PLEASE...give me GOD all day.

Can't wait til' your junk models go the way of the tooth fairy...just like phrenology.
You can have your "god" and maintain your ignorance. It's a free country. However, I'll ask only one thing from you; something I've asked countless other creationists but have yet to receive an answer. Please present objective evidence to support your intelligent design hypothesis. It has to be something that can be observed, tested, verified, and agreed upon by an overwhelming majority of the scientific community, much like evolution is today. If you can do this one thing then we will listen to you and seriously consider intelligent design as an alternative to evolution.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:06 AM
 
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You can have your "god" and maintain your ignorance. It's a free country. However, I'll ask only one thing from you. Something I've asked countless other creationists but have yet to receive an answer. Please present objective evidence to support your intelligent design hypothesis. It has to be something that can be observed, tested, verified, and agreed upon by an overwhelming majority of the scientific community, much like evolution is today. If you can do this one thing then we will listen to you and seriously consider intelligent design as an alternative to evolution.
#1 - I am not a Creationist...

#2 - I never stated anything as fact...not even intelligent design.

#3 - I am simply stating that subjects like the golden ratio, golden rectangle, fibonaccis numbers etc. etc. (along with string theory and so forth) should be explored as possible leads to intelligent design.

And they absolutely SHOULD because they have plenty of indicators that suggest that nothing did not create everything.

Please, make a valid argument why the quest for understanding our existence should be capped based off what we know right now....

NOBODY would agree that should be done. Except, possibly some uber weirdos in this thread.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:09 AM
 
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What do you think arguments for intelligent design are rooted in!!??
Ignorance and religious belief.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:10 AM
 
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As an alternative theory to Darwin evolution?

No-

I am a Christian, but do not believe that religious views should be a part of the curriculum. If kids want to pray- let them. If one believes in a Christian education, send your kids to a parochial school, as we did with our kids.
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:10 AM
 
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Intelligent design is not Creationism...you are conflating the two.
Intelligent design means that some one, or something had a hand in designing the world, its inhabitants, etc.
There is no proof of this designer. "It could have happened this way" is not a scientific theory.

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Definition of INTELLIGENT DESIGN

: the theory that matter, the various forms of life, and the world were created by a designing intelligence
Intelligent design - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

What is intelligent design?
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Old 08-22-2013, 06:11 AM
 
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Well if that is the case...neither do your quackish studies for your own confirmation bias with skewed algorithms for error correction, fancy pictures and garbage data sets... PLEASE...give me GOD all day.

Can't wait til' your junk models go the way of the tooth fairy...just like phrenology.
Thanks for finally admitting that you choose religious beliefs over science.

Can't wait till your Yahweh goes the way of his 69 brothers, his consort, and all the other mythical man made deities.

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