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Old 09-18-2013, 06:17 PM
 
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Your post has more to do with 1984 that you realize, it is not so much what you posted but the "solutions" to the "problem" you listed.
Your view is biased due to the dominance of communism in the 20th century. There are perfectly capitalistic ways take money from the rich without robbing or taxing them.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:28 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Your view is biased due to the dominance of communism in the 20th century. There are perfectly capitalistic ways take money from the rich without robbing or taxing them.
I would love to hear these capitalistic ways to take money from the rich without robbing or taxing them
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:37 PM
 
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Obama has done a great job of lowering the Middle Class to the poverty level.
I've been "Middle Class" my entire life ..... granted on the upper end for most of it - but never thought I would see the day that the US Government decided that I was at the "poverty level" and offered a plethora of "subsidies" for me to take advantage of the US Taxpayer (which I've always been) to soak them for my new "poverty level".

I simply won't do it, and resent in the strongest terms to pressure to make me do it. This country means a lot to me, and pride in it will not allow me to go on the Obama/Leftist Gravy Train to join the gimme crowd.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Haven't you heard we are on the way from trickle down economic to government supplied welfare by wealth sharing. Enough to feed you and not so much you begin thinking for yourself in the voting booth.
0bama is doing his warped view of trickle down economics, thru Bernanke with his $85 billion a month in QE3 stock market bailout. All hail 0bama
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Your view is biased due to the dominance of communism in the 20th century. There are perfectly capitalistic ways take money from the rich without robbing or taxing them.
Offer them a product or service they want or desire, and relieve the "rich" of some of their money.
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Old 09-18-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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I would love to hear these capitalistic ways to take money from the rich without robbing or taxing them
Take more from them than you give.

That doesn't mean they can't profit off your labor, it means that when you spend money earned from the rich, make sure you put it in sources that are much more local than an overseas bank account or foreign businesses.

A very good and efficient example of this is staying out of bad debt as much as possible.

In other words, the middle class has to become smarter with their money and pass that knowledge (and resources) down to their children.


All there is to it.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Instead of complaining about how the balance has shifted, do something to change it in your favor. As noted above, create a product or service that is desired by everyone, including the rich. Where has American Ingenuity gone in recent years?

I suppose its easier to **** and moan about a problem rather then expend the effort to create a solution on your own. I guess we've got government to solve our problems, right?
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:26 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Take more from them than you give.

That doesn't mean they can't profit off your labor, it means that when you spend money earned from the rich, make sure you put it in sources that are much more local than an overseas bank account or foreign businesses.

A very good and efficient example of this is staying out of bad debt as much as possible.

In other words, the middle class has to become smarter with their money and pass that knowledge (and resources) down to their children.


All there is to it.
So what your saying is to shop at mom and pop stores with large markups and small inventory. Great idea. Not go into debt, ground breaking.

It is amazing the rich have stayed rich with these amazing plans.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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Instead of complaining about how the balance has shifted, do something to change it in your favor. As noted above, create a product or service that is desired by everyone, including the rich. Where has American Ingenuity gone in recent years?

I suppose its easier to **** and moan about a problem rather then expend the effort to create a solution on your own. I guess we've got government to solve our problems, right?
Here is why:

An individual making a change isn't enough. You must ***** ans moan so that other people can hear. Otherwise the balance will continue to shift and when the people can't take it anymore they are going to turn to a radical before taking responsibility.
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Old 09-18-2013, 07:44 PM
 
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They don't care. Just look at any Walmart parking lot on any given day.
Walmart is the #1 employer in the US.

We stopped caring decades ago.
you are incorrect. The federal government is the largest employer, BY FAR.

The key to the middle class, is economic freedom and low taxes.
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