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Old 09-19-2013, 03:54 PM
 
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Step 1 would be approving birth control. One of the reasons people are poor is because they have too many kids.

What's the catholic church's message to a dad who makes $7/hour and already has five kids? It is "Go ahead, have another kid."
I would have no problem with this happening. In fact I suspect eventually the church will allow barrier non hormonal forms like condoms.
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Old 09-19-2013, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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As a former Catholic, I too, like this Pope. Glad that old Nazi is gone!
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Step 1 would be approving birth control. One of the reasons people are poor is because they have too many kids.

What's the catholic church's message to a dad who makes $7/hour and already has five kids? It is "Go ahead, have another kid."
Catholics in the US don't have significantly more kids than Protestants or Jews with the same educational and income levels.

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Just like they are quietly supportive of gays in districts where a catholic church is surrounded by homosexuality. What are they going to do? Alienate their neighbors/community?
On a local level, Catholic parishes tend to be very pro-active in social justice. It's when you get higher up the ecclesiastical food chain where dogma becomes rigid.

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As a former Catholic, I too, like this Pope. Glad that old Nazi is gone!
Frankly, I was offended by the previous pope. To claim that he had "no choice" but to join the Hitler Youth is simply untrue. If you are called to do God's work, you can't side with the Devil because it's convenient and use youth as an excuse. He wasn't a ten-year-old. The priest in the parish I belonged to in the 1970s and 1980s was a teenage seminarian in Poland in 1939 and spent six years in a concentration camp.
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:24 PM
 
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95% of Catholic American women ignore the Church's teaching on birth control.

The horse has left the barn.
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Old 09-19-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Who needs to hear from Protestants when "Catholics" make the best anti-Catholics?
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:57 PM
 
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yeah im hoping this is an indication of a newer less assy global church.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:05 PM
 
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I am Catholic and I like him. I wish the church would get back to things like helping the poor instead of worrying about issues like abortion and gay marriage.
How many centuries has it taken the Church to finally find someone fitting the position?
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I just heard about him saying "Who am I to judge" when the subject of some being gay came up. Very cool that there is finally someone at the helm with some common sense. That has been the problem with the Catholic church for so many years, they put themselves up on a pedestal and a lot of people felt they were out of touch with them.

Maybe this will be the start of the church finally being able to connect with it's members again.

Don
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Old 09-20-2013, 02:16 AM
 
Location: oakland / berkeley
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Despite my family's best efforts, I'm just not a spiritual person, and prefer the cold and alienating embrace of scientific materialism. However, the church's positions on sexual/gender issues are what ended any desire to remain even loosely affiliated. Although the door has already closed for me, glad to see the church have a better pope; hopefully they can focus on social justice instead of policing genitals.
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:55 AM
 
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95% of Catholic American women ignore the Church's teaching on birth control.

The horse has left the barn.
And not just where birth control is concerned. In the parish I belonged to in the Eighties homosexuals participated in the sacraments and were ushers, etc. at the services.
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