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Old 10-11-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Americans are not stupid, which is why the majority rejects the tea party and places most of the blame for this current fiasco on the GOP.
The tea party does not have the majority in the house the republicans do
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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If the tea party is helping elect liberals why do the liberals attack them
Because there are still enough of them to band together and cause widespread economic harm, as evidenced by recent weeks.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The tea party does not have the majority in the house the republicans do
But the tea party wing drove the current "let's use the shutdown / debt ceiling to try to overturn a law" strategy.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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The tea party does not have the majority in the house the republicans do
Unfortunately because of the insane Hastert rule, it doesn't matter.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:15 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Then why attack them

Just because they're self-destructing doesn't mean they don't deserve a good bashing.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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He Liberals if it was all so true then why would you be so concerned in stopping them?
Because a rational loyal opposition interested in good governance is beneficial to the operation of a democracy. As long as the Tea Party is influential, we will not have that.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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But the tea party wing drove the current "let's use the shutdown / debt ceiling to try to overturn a law" strategy.
One of the prerogatives of congress is to change and dismantle laws .The tea party members were elected to do what they are trying to do which is to stop Obama care. There are consequences to elections . They were elected by their home districts to do what they are trying to do
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Because a rational loyal opposition interested in good governance is beneficial to the operation of a democracy. As long as the Tea Party is influential, we will not have that.
What positions must the tea party take in order to be as you described?
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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First and foremost, in the process of doing their damage to the GOP, they're doing damage to the nation as a whole, by fostering an environment where egoistic avarice is rationalized.
Don't hide behind words where your true meaning is vague and wildly open to interpretation.

Just say precisely what you mean with concrete examples. This way you have to admit your arguments are false and irrational.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Just because they're self-destructing doesn't mean they don't deserve a good bashing.
if they are self destructive then they would not need to be bashed and demonized. I realize there are people against lower taxes and less spending. The more the left demonize them the more the followers will grow.IMHO
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