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Old 10-23-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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I'm happy we did something to allow access to healthcare for millions. Millions of conservatives don't know why they hate this, they only know they have been trained to hate it.

So they do.
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They heard their talk show hosts telling them that this is bad. What more do they need to know?



No, we noticed it in our grossly increased premiums and increased deductibles.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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i love obamacare | dccc

don't you look pretty silly now?
lol
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Oh, how they once embraced 0bamacare, named after their incompetent lord and master.

And now watch them scatter like cockroaches when the lights come on now that it's proven to be exactly what they were warned it would be. Suddenly, it's got a new, fancy, obscure name and it's no longer 0bamacare! Even they don't know what to call it!

All the faux confusion; all the deflection.

Clue: It's GARBAGE. Call it 0garbage. Works for most of us.
So you live in la-la land and are choosing to ignore all of the positive feedback from ACA? Not surprised, I bet you will be shocked when 2014 and 2016 don't go your way either even though we have all been telling you this for a while now.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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If the media and the bots have been instructed to stop using the name 'obamacare', it's already dead.
So you don't know what we are talking about when we say ACA? Where are you from? 'Merika?
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:11 PM
 
Location: texas
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So you don't know what we are talking about when we say ACA? Where are you from? 'Merika?
I am truely shock at the level of confusion on the right as to what PPACA is and is not. I think that is they reason why they continue to still say "Obamacare".
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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Anybody that actually trusts and believes the governments motives are in their own personal best interests is either displaying willful ignorance or has been so indoctrinated that they have been completely blinded from the truth.
It is the nature of every government to become more tyrannical over time. History is rife with evidence of such.
With ever new bureaucracy, law, rule, regulation and tax our freedoms are diminished and the power of the government grows.

Obamacare is nothing more than a power grab designed to put the people further under the heal of government control.

Its a shame that some believe in the theft of human life. For that is what it is when the government steals the fruits ones labor to use for its own purposes under the guise of the greater good.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Anybody that actually trusts and believes the governments motives are in their own personal best interests is either displaying willful ignorance or has been so indoctrinated that they have been completely blinded from the truth.
It is the nature of every government to become more tyrannical over time. History is rife with evidence of such.
With ever new bureaucracy, law, rule, regulation and tax our freedoms are diminished and the power of the government grows.

Obamacare is nothing more than a power grab designed to put the people further under the heal of government control.

Its a shame that some believe in the theft of human life. For that is what it is when the government steals the fruits ones labor to use for its own purposes under the guise of the greater good.
How's the internet connection in the little wood shake you built for yourself far away from anything that could force you to rely on the government?
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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Making a judgment 3 weeks in is a bit premature, maybe we could wait at least 4 weeks?
Wait as many weeks as you wish, it it a failure and will never work, and never be fully implemented. it is doomed. so is comrade obama.
Fools who follow the communist display their ignorance on a daily basis...
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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I am truely shock at the level of confusion on the right as to what PPACA is and is not. I think that is they reason why they continue to still say "Obamacare".
Keep trying to change the name, it is comrade obama's failure and he will deal with it, as both he and his communist healthcare plan are finished.. It is already BK..!!
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I'm happy with it so far.
Some of the first parts of the ACA were implemented last year. They included no more denial of insurance for pre-existing conditions, no cutting off insurance due to catastrophic illness, no arbitrary caps, and better coverage on preventive medicine. At age 68, and having no med insurance since 2003, all those parts of the law were very important to me. I am at an age where I really needed coverage. That I was able to find the coverage I needed at a very good rate was a big bonus.

I just got health insurance for the first time in a decade last November. Because the rates went down with my company in anticipation of Obamacare, and while I very seldom have ever needed medical insurance, I got a very satisfactory rate. I didn't expect I would need the insurance soon but I did, twice, since then. One illness and one surgery. My last surgery was over 50 years ago.
My co-pays were excellent in both cases, and my drug costs became much more affordable.

I doubt my rates will be better using Obamacare, but that will be easy for me to discover, as my company is on the state exchange. All I have to do is call my agent. Since it is on the exchange, I have no concerns that my insurance will be dropped any time soon.

So for me, the big benefits of the ACA came early.

I plan to check out my state's website; I live in a state that is managing our Obamacare, not the feds, and I'm giving younger folks some time to get their insurance needs filled first. We have a lot of young uninsured living here, and I'm very satisfied for now. If I find advantages when I do enquire, I'll probably switch over to a state offered program.

And since the law is going to be around for a long time now, I may find in the future that my rates or my coverage may be better if I switch. I now have the luxury of time a lot of folks my age did not have just a few years ago. For one member of my family, it was getting insured at any price that suddenly became a necessity for her a couple of years ago, and her costs were very high. She is younger than me and will benefit more than me from Obamacare.

Our Obamacare seems to be doing well. The sign-ups have been much heavier than expected. Our state legislature was very opposed to joining, but our Governor joined us up, and it seems to have been a good thing for us.

Medicare at 65....?
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