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Old 10-22-2013, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Here
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Things are going to get ugly. Can't say I'm surprised.

(Obama Swooner replies to surely include attacking the source (WSJ) and author (physician). Wait....for...it

Bradley Allen: ObamaCare 2016: Happy Yet? - WSJ.com
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:29 AM
 
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This really outlines a much larger underlying problem which is not caused by the ACA. However, the ACA doesn't gracefully address it either.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:05 AM
 
Location: texas
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Things are going to get ugly. Can't say I'm surprised.

(Obama Swooner replies to surely include attacking the source (WSJ) and author (physician). Wait....for...it

Bradley Allen: ObamaCare 2016: Happy Yet? - WSJ.com
What is exactly is "obamacare"? That seems to be the right's universal term for anything remotely associated with healtcare and ACA?

Dont like your doctor...blame "obamacare".
dont like hospital food..blame obamacare
dont like your HC insurance....blame obamacare
dont like you appointment date..blame obamacare.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:18 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Oh, how they once embraced 0bamacare, named after their incompetent lord and master.

And now watch them scatter like cockroaches when the lights come on now that it's proven to be exactly what they were warned it would be. Suddenly, it's got a new, fancy, obscure name and it's no longer 0bamacare! Even they don't know what to call it!

All the faux confusion; all the deflection.

Clue: It's GARBAGE. Call it 0garbage. Works for most of us.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:28 AM
 
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Oh, how they once embraced 0bamacare, named after their incompetent lord and master.

And now watch them scatter like cockroaches when the lights come on now that it's proven to be exactly what they were warned it would be. Suddenly, it's got a new, fancy, obscure name and it's no longer 0bamacare! Even they don't know what to call it!

All the faux confusion; all the deflection.

Clue: It's GARBAGE. Call it 0garbage. Works for most of us.
Oh the horrors of it all. The ACA only saved this man $15,000.
President Obama Singles Out Leetsdale Man During Healthcare Speech « CBS Pittsburgh
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:35 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I'm happy with it so far.
Some of the first parts of the ACA were implemented last year. They included no more denial of insurance for pre-existing conditions, no cutting off insurance due to catastrophic illness, no arbitrary caps, and better coverage on preventive medicine. At age 68, and having no med insurance since 2003, all those parts of the law were very important to me. I am at an age where I really needed coverage. That I was able to find the coverage I needed at a very good rate was a big bonus.

I just got health insurance for the first time in a decade last November. Because the rates went down with my company in anticipation of Obamacare, and while I very seldom have ever needed medical insurance, I got a very satisfactory rate. I didn't expect I would need the insurance soon but I did, twice, since then. One illness and one surgery. My last surgery was over 50 years ago.
My co-pays were excellent in both cases, and my drug costs became much more affordable.

I doubt my rates will be better using Obamacare, but that will be easy for me to discover, as my company is on the state exchange. All I have to do is call my agent. Since it is on the exchange, I have no concerns that my insurance will be dropped any time soon.

So for me, the big benefits of the ACA came early.

I plan to check out my state's website; I live in a state that is managing our Obamacare, not the feds, and I'm giving younger folks some time to get their insurance needs filled first. We have a lot of young uninsured living here, and I'm very satisfied for now. If I find advantages when I do enquire, I'll probably switch over to a state offered program.

And since the law is going to be around for a long time now, I may find in the future that my rates or my coverage may be better if I switch. I now have the luxury of time a lot of folks my age did not have just a few years ago. For one member of my family, it was getting insured at any price that suddenly became a necessity for her a couple of years ago, and her costs were very high. She is younger than me and will benefit more than me from Obamacare.

Our Obamacare seems to be doing well. The sign-ups have been much heavier than expected. Our state legislature was very opposed to joining, but our Governor joined us up, and it seems to have been a good thing for us.

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Old 10-23-2013, 04:10 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
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Its surely not perfect, as if anything ever is initially..But I suspect that it probaby would seem less imperfect if not for the sabotage: Bill Maher: GOP
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:19 AM
 
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I'm happy with it so far.
Some of the first parts of the ACA were implemented last year. They included no more denial of insurance for pre-existing conditions, no cutting off insurance due to catastrophic illness, no arbitrary caps, and better coverage on preventive medicine. At age 68, and having no med insurance since 2003, all those parts of the law were very important to me. I am at an age where I really needed coverage. That I was able to find the coverage I needed at a very good rate was a big bonus.

I just got health insurance for the first time in a decade last November. Because the rates went down with my company in anticipation of Obamacare, and while I very seldom have ever needed medical insurance, I got a very satisfactory rate. I didn't expect I would need the insurance soon but I did, twice, since then. One illness and one surgery. My last surgery was over 50 years ago.
My co-pays were excellent in both cases, and my drug costs became much more affordable.

I doubt my rates will be better using Obamacare, but that will be easy for me to discover, as my company is on the state exchange. All I have to do is call my agent. Since it is on the exchange, I have no concerns that my insurance will be dropped any time soon.

So for me, the big benefits of the ACA came early.



I plan to check out my state's website; I live in a state that is managing our Obamacare, not the feds, and I'm giving younger folks some time to get their insurance needs filled first. We have a lot of young uninsured living here, and I'm very satisfied for now. If I find advantages when I do enquire, I'll probably switch over to a state offered program.

And since the law is going to be around for a long time now, I may find in the future that my rates or my coverage may be better if I switch. I now have the luxury of time a lot of folks my age did not have just a few years ago. For one member of my family, it was getting insured at any price that suddenly became a necessity for her a couple of years ago, and her costs were very high. She is younger than me and will benefit more than me from Obamacare.

Our Obamacare seems to be doing well. The sign-ups have been much heavier than expected. Our state legislature was very opposed to joining, but our Governor joined us up, and it seems to have been a good thing for us.
Correct me if I am mistaken, but since you are 68, you are Medicare eligible and can't enroll in Obamacare. Why didn't you sign up for Medicare when you were 65?
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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I'm happy we did something to allow access to healthcare for millions. Millions of conservatives don't know why they hate this, they only know they have been trained to hate it.

So they do.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:29 AM
 
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I'm happy we did something to allow access to healthcare for millions. Millions of conservatives don't know why they hate this, they only know they have been trained to hate it.

So they do.
They heard their talk show hosts telling them that this is bad. What more do they need to know?
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