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right.. it is about ACCESS to healthcare.. which I pretty much equate as being one and the same, considering that without the insurance..there pretty much isn't really much "healthcare" going on .. at least not for the 98% of us that aren't wealthy....
And, indeed you made reference to how the states on the state level could have done away with pre-existing conditions .. etc.. unless that wasn't your post I initially responded to and was someone else.. in which case I apologize for getting you confused with someone ekes.
This is not the Access to Care Act.
It is the Affordable Care Act.
It isn't the Affordable Insurance Act, either . . . but it sure looks like it is about insurance rather than healthcare COST.
and there are many ways the ACA works to lower the cost of that access....
Semantics...
No it isn't semantics.
Insurance does not equal access.
Insurance simply indemnifies that at a certain point, another party will cover at least part of incurred expenses.
However, one has to pay for the right to have someone else to indemnify those expenses, and if the premium is high, the deductibles are high, and the coverage is dismal . . . that isn't much indemnification.
Everyone in the USA has access to healthcare services . . . even in rural areas. However, being able to pay for those services, even with insurance, is a different ball of wax.
I wish that were true.. but the reality of it is you don't get healthcare without insurance.
sure, you get patched up in an ER and sent home with a bill that you can't pay.
BUT.. you also get diagnosed and told to call a specialist about whatever ails you.
So, if you are diagnosed with cancer because you walked into the ER with pain (which, by that point would be too late anyway.. and if you had access to affordable care you would have had it discovered long before it became life threatening). .. you are told to go see an oncologist.
And, any doctors office I have seen has a sign that reads "payment expected at time of visit" . In other words, they dont' treat you and send you home with a bill that they know you'll never be able to pay.
So , indeed, in the U.S healthcare and health insurance are synonymous..
It isn't in the rest of the world.
Okay, since you know so much about healthcare administration . . . what percentage of patients are private pay?
You are so wrong . . . having insurance has nothing to do with whether or not you get the services you need. Physicians as well as hospitals are happy to take cash and they will typically offer a discount for cash or credit card -- usually 25% right off the top.
In addition, all ERs in the USA are under federal mandate to provide care regardless of ability to pay.
Please stay on topic. I have invited you several times to find another thread which will allow you to pontificate all you wish about your belief that insurance means access to healthcare.
Please stay on topic. I have invited you several times to find another thread which will allow you to pontificate all you wish about your belief that insurance means access to healthcare.
Oh please..this came up IN this thread.. don't like it don't answer it! Geez.. someone brought it up, I responded .. and you keep bringing it up again..
Well, heck, it appears, that a leftist is proving that yuo will get free health care....
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Originally Posted by MTAtech
Actually, that hasn't been established -- except if one believes hysterical news reports claiming people who "liked their insurance" but actually had worthless policies.
What seems to be more truthful is that those with formerly junk policies will be able to afford real insurance policies and get tax credits and subsidies to afford those policies. In fact, Federal analysts estimated last week that, after subsidies, two-thirds of the uninsured young adults in 34 exchanges around the country could get bargain coverage for less than $100 a month, and almost half could get it for less than $50 a month. The Times also reported that many could get free coverage, after subsidies.
You lefties need to get on the same page....
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