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I know, I know, at this point the news just keeps getting worse and worse (but remember what Pelosi said...).
From US News and World Report - "Americans who sign up for Obamacare will be getting a big surprise if they expect to access premium health care that may have been previously covered under their personal policies. Most of the top hospitals will accept insurance from just one or two companies operating under Obamacare." Top Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare - US News and World Report
Well, who wants top-quality healthcare anyway, right Democrats? Thanks for helping screw up the best healthcare system in the world.
Well, look at what's in that article...
Quote:
Insurers operating in the exchanges are apparently hesitant to talk about the trade-off between price and quality. Two of the nation's largest insurers – Wellpoint and Aetna – refused to respond to a dozen calls and emails placed over the course of a week.
Wellpoint and Aetna's decision to not educate the public on its choices doesn't sit well with two experts.
"There is no reason to keep that quiet. It's not going to be a good secret for very long when people want to use the plans," Wilensky said.
"In many cases, consumers are shopping blind when it comes to what doctors and hospitals are included in their Obamacare exchange plans," said Josh Archambault, senior fellow with the think tank Foundation for Government Accountability. "These patients will be in for a rude awakening once they need care, and get stuck with a big bill for going out-of-network without realizing it."
Why are the insurers failing to tell their customers anything?
I know, I know, at this point the news just keeps getting worse and worse (but remember what Pelosi said...).
From US News and World Report - "Americans who sign up for Obamacare will be getting a big surprise if they expect to access premium health care that may have been previously covered under their personal policies. Most of the top hospitals will accept insurance from just one or two companies operating under Obamacare." Top Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare - US News and World Report
Well, who wants top-quality healthcare anyway, right Democrats? Thanks for helping screw up the best healthcare system in the world.
They are top hospitals because they are run by smart people. This latest decision proves that.
Actually what's even crazier is the supposed "reasons" some people are opposed to it. Most of what they are saying is so awful about it isn't even true.. That to me is crazy.
As for why plans are being cancelled.. simple, they were crap plans that didn't meet the standards set out in the ACA. People who think they had such a great plan were fortunate enough to never have to discover just how vulnerable their plan left them financially...
I read the ACA and I have it on my Kindle to reference. About 90% of the reasons people "oppose" it is because of something they "heard" about it that is completely not true in the least.
and, of couse, people that don't know about the standards in the ACA are going to not understand why their plan was crap because they simply do not have the information. They care enough about it to complain, but not enough about it find the free versions of it online and look up stuff themselves about it.
All this indignation for a statement Obama made about it... I think they would be very surprised and even more appalled about how much they were lied to NOT by Obama about the law.. but by the side they have taken in the Obamacare debate.... ..
I am SHOCKED at all the BS flying around out there about it.. and not from those that support it, but from those that oppose it. It's quite sad actually.....
I guess you didn't see Megan Kelly and the segment on the woman who had a Cadillac plan. Her husband got cancer and they paid for most of his bills, which came to a million dollars. She wants to keep that plan for herself and the premiums went up, but not much. Now the insurance company said with Obamacare they had to up the premiums much more to comply with the law. Nice huh?
I am shocked how stupid people are... Hospital must accept these Obamacare patients because they need the revenue.... Apparently you have zero idea of how the health system works and you come here talking complete idiocy and think you know something? Well, you don't, please do us a favor and stop talking absolute nonsense...
Are you saying that an insurance/health plan wont send an ambulance to a high cost hospital and have a patient transferred to their own hospital?? As an example would Kaiser pick up an outrageous bill at UCLA med center when they have their own hospital down the street? By the way UCLA, Childrens Orothopedic in Seattle, Cedar Sinai and others wont take the ACA unless they are forced to take some losses and lower their rates? Let them sit around for the next year with empty beds.
Are you looking for a law which forces hospitals to take any insurance? Seriously? Such system is called a single payer system.
Hospitals should accept any insurance, and do. Well not the ones Michelle Obama worked at didn't since she sent the poor people to a sub-standard hospital just to get rid of them and their low paying companies.
I guess you didn't see Megan Kelly and the segment on the woman who had a Cadillac plan. Her husband got cancer and they paid for most of his bills, which came to a million dollars. She wants to keep that plan for herself and the premiums went up, but not much. Now the insurance company said with Obamacare they had to up the premiums much more to comply with the law. Nice huh?
Cadillac plans were designed to be "cheap"... although in this case they were sold a "cadillac" plan that was basically crap if they had to pay a lot of out pocket. If the ACA was in place and the plan that they will now have was in place then they wouldn't have had to pay so much out of pocket because the ACA guidelines set a standard that prevents just such things..
And.. if their "cadillac" plan had to change to comply.. it meant that they were not up to the standard (in otherwords, they were BELOW minimum standards.. ie.. it was crap)
And yes, it may cost them more in the short run.. but long run.. they are better off..
WE are ALL better off. ACA came about for JUST THE REASON illustrated in the story you referenced .. its so that from now on no one has to go through that kind of situation.
AND.. most likely the subsidies they qualify for would ease the difference between what they had and what they will have ..
Are you saying that an insurance/health plan wont send an ambulance to a high cost hospital and have a patient transferred to their own hospital?? As an example would Kaiser pick up an outrageous bill at UCLA med center when they have their own hospital down the street? By the way UCLA, Childrens Orothopedic in Seattle, Cedar Sinai and others wont take the ACA unless they are forced to take some losses and lower their rates? Let them sit around for the next year with empty beds.
Apparently you don't know how hospitals work either, you think they can't fill their beds without Obamacare... You think its better to have filled beds with medicaid patients then private insurance? The hospitals don't have problems filling beds before or after Obamacare period...
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