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Old 11-07-2013, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Please explain how a housing ordinance which sets maximum capacity at 6 for related individuals and 2 for unrelated individuals is a SAFETY issue.

Put another way, if it is safe for a family of six to live in a house, how is it unsafe instead for three unrelated persons to live in the same house?
What in the world does this have to do with minimum wage in SeaTac?
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Please explain how a housing ordinance which sets maximum capacity at 6 for related individuals and 2 for unrelated individuals is a SAFETY issue.

Put another way, if it is safe for a family of six to live in a house, how is it unsafe instead for three unrelated persons to live in the same house?
why don't you explain what you mean

what ordinace..where...written by whom

is it a town not wanting slums...or is it a landloard, wanting to control what comes into his building

you have shown in the past that you are quite warped...please continue
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:43 PM
 
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What in the world does this have to do with minimum wage in SeaTac?

If rents weren't do damn high, fast food workers wouldn't be agitating for a $15/hr minimum wage.

If housing regulation were reduced, rents wouldn't be so darn high.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What in the world does this have to do with minimum wage in SeaTac?
it doesn't...this guy who is happy earning 15k a year and will get a 3/4 pension from ss is always bashing housing, education, and personal responsibility


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??? How does someone in a menial dead-end job improve their work skills?
been answered many, many times....you refuse to listen and learn from anyone
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I can't find full time work, I have no marketable skills and employers prefer unskilled workers half my age, plus I have student loan debt that reduces what little available money I have.
many posters to including myself and one Mod, have given you many, many suggestions and avenues of approach for fixing and helping your situation......

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but all you do is give excuses of why you cant....

many have suggested the library.....but you have an excuse of why you cant

many have suggested job shaddowing...but you have an excuse of why you cant

many have suggested grants, loans, etc....you have an exuses of why you cant

all you want to do is blame someone to include your parents, but you never look in the mirror


your 50+ years old man...get with the program
//www.city-data.com/forum/28136...htmlOriginally Posted by workingclasshero
but you will have an excuse...you even bragg about how you are on you way to a 2/3 SS pension and are stealing from the government by working off the books







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I'm on track to get $900 a month from Social Security. Take that away and I'm in deep doo doo. Poor grandpa, that will be me in a few years.b

What's that you say, I should have saved for retirement? How much do you realistically expect people to save on a $15K income?

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so let's see if I get this straight

your 50 something...and supposedly UNSKILLED (at 50...really?????)

you settle for a 15k a year job

save NOTHING

and then plan on getting a 2/3 pension when you retire (900/month is over 10k a year )


btw your contributions to ss 6%...6% of 15k is 900 A YEAR

so you think it good that you contribut 900 a year (and your employeer matches it) for you to get 900/month????? how liberal of you
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:49 PM
 
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why don't you explain what you mean

what ordinace..where...written by whom

is it a town not wanting slums...or is it a landloard, wanting to control what comes into his building

you have shown in the past that you are quite warped...please continue

Are you really as uninformed as you are acting here?

A number of towns and cities have enacted local ordinances setting unrelated occupancy limits lower than the occupancy limits for related persons. While these discriminatory restrictions are most common in college towns - where landlords and tenants commonly respond to limited supply and high rents by having several occupants to split the rent - they also exist in larger towns and cities including Lubbock.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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it doesn't...this guy who is happy earning 15k a year and will get a 3/4 pension from ss is always bashing housing, education, and personal responsibility
Ah yes, I remember now. I choose to not engage.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:51 PM
 
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it doesn't...this guy who is happy earning 15k a year and will get a 3/4 pension from ss is always bashing housing, education, and personal responsibility

??? I have never worked off the books, where did you get that idea?
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Are you really as uninformed as you are acting here?

A number of towns and cities have enacted local ordinances setting unrelated occupancy limits lower than the occupancy limits for related persons. While these discriminatory restrictions are most common in college towns - where landlords and tenants commonly respond to limited supply and high rents by having several occupants to split the rent - they also exist in larger towns and cities including Lubbock.
have never seen such a thing...and I have lived in many states (ny,wv, tn, nc, wi, nj)

but it also makes sense...do you really thinks a 1000sf 3 bedroom apt should allow more than 6 people???

what do you want 5 to a bed??


there is no talking to you
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:55 PM
 
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These are two separate topics, best handled with two separate debates. If we could reduce housing costs without causing deleterious side effects, why wouldn't we do it, regardless of what the minimum wage is?

Because classist middle class homeowners consider "burger flippers owning homes in my neighborhood" a deleterious side effect.

If someone can refute this I'd love to hear it.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:58 PM
 
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have never seen such a thing...and I have lived in many states (ny,wv, tn, nc, wi, nj)

but it also makes sense...do you really thinks a 1000sf 3 bedroom apt should allow more than 6 people???

what do you want 5 to a bed??


there is no talking to you

Are you dense or just not paying attention? My issue is NOT about allowing a maximum of 6 people in a 1000sf house...my issue is If it is safe and legal for a family of 6 to live in a 1000sf house why is it unsafe and illegal for 3 unrelated individuals to live in the same 1000sf house?
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