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Old 11-07-2013, 12:46 PM
 
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I hope you are right, for Seattle's sake, but I'm not so sure:

Backers of SeaTac’s $15 wage floor eye Seattle | Local News | The Seattle Times

Seattle's new Mayor-elect Ed Murray has already announced his support for the $15 minimum. In fact some Seattle pols have talked about going even higher than $15.

Would conservaatives support reduced housing regulation (in order to reduce housing costs and thereby make the current min wage livable) as an alternative to raising the minimum wage?

Naw, probably not.
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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Perhaps if that was the only cost it might be small but anyone in that area making $15 now is going to want more and you can't blame them. Driving up the pay for every one else is just one of the cascading affects of the minimum wage.
yep ;15 dollars a hour will not be livable wage. prices will in the end go up. More will commute to take advantage of higher wage but want lower cost of living in other areas as normal. The bottom is always the bottom as they say .
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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yep ;15 dollars a hour will not be livable wage. prices will in the end go up. More will commute to take advantage of higher wage but want lower cost of living in other areas as normal. The bottom is always the bottom as they say .

(singing) And in the end / the price you pay / is equal to the wage / You make
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:38 PM
 
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Would conservaatives support reduced housing regulation (in order to reduce housing costs and thereby make the current min wage livable) as an alternative to raising the minimum wage?

Naw, probably not.
What is reduced housing regulation?
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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What is reduced housing regulation?

keeping regulations which are necessary for health and safety while eliminating unnecessary regulations which merely promote the interests of favored classes.

e.g. other than reasonable setback requirements, minimum lot sizes merely reflect middle class biases and are not really necessary, same with most density and unrelated occupancy restrictions.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:56 PM
 
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keeping regulations which are necessary for health and safety while eliminating unnecessary regulations which merely promote the interests of favored classes.

e.g. other than reasonable setback requirements, minimum lot sizes merely reflect middle class biases and are not really necessary, same with most density and unrelated occupancy restrictions.
I'm confused why this would be a conservative or liberal issue.

The first person proposing stuff like this is going to be called a slum lord trying to cram people into boxes to maximize profits. (true or not).
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Old 11-07-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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Would conservaatives support reduced housing regulation (in order to reduce housing costs and thereby make the current min wage livable) as an alternative to raising the minimum wage?

Naw, probably not.
And even if they did that, and housing was say, almost free, could those burger flippers afford a house? Naw, probably not.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Would conservaatives support reduced housing regulation (in order to reduce housing costs and thereby make the current min wage livable) as an alternative to raising the minimum wage?

Naw, probably not.
These are two separate topics, best handled with two separate debates. If we could reduce housing costs without causing deleterious side effects, why wouldn't we do it, regardless of what the minimum wage is?
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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These are two separate topics, best handled with two separate debates. If we could reduce housing costs without causing deleterious side effects, why wouldn't we do it, regardless of what the minimum wage is?
Yeah, the thread sort of jumped the shark.
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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What is reduced housing regulation?
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