Florida shifts away from Republicans (Reagan, crime rates, leader, party)

[gunlover]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

Probably not


As shown in "The Curly Effect", politicians tend to promote policy which expands their constituency. Given that most poor, dependent people are democrats, the goal of democrat policy is to create more poor people.

Additionally, we have a government sponsored policy which encourages the poor and those of lower intellect to have more and more children. Thus, we not only have more poor people by virtue of economic policy, but also more idiots and poor via social policy.


So if one feels as though the state of the nation will improve with more poor and lower intellect citizens, then the "best years" of the US are ahead of us. If, on the other hand, you believe that hard working, intelligent people make a more prosperous nation, then perhaps our best years are behind us. With the majority of citizens being dependent and the average IQ at 96, the "keys to the kingdom" are in the hands of people who tend to make poor decisions in life. These "poor decisions" will help them in the short run, but will doom the nation as a whole.

Does anyone really think that poor, dependent people will suddenly vote AGAINST receiving more "free stuff", gain 20 IQ points, become more informed, and suddenly make rational decisions?

No, they wont, they trade liberty and freedom for any moron who promises something and force someone else to pay for it.

[tickyul]

Florida, then Texico.........then one party rule. With that one party rule, people will be wishing for the good-ole-days when they just had to worry about the governmental power-grab called Osamacare.

[beachmouse]

Originally Posted by PriusH8r

Promise more free stuff......Get more votes.

Promise to be fiscally responsible......Get voted out.

Both sides do it. On the Republican side it's all tax breaks all the time, whether or not you'll be able to afford essential services after the cut.

One thing I give Jeb! a fair amount of credit for in the early 00s was that, when faced with a few years of high budget surplus projection, he actually had the guts to say that the state couldn't afford mass tax cuts with the surplus because his entire economics team was saying that the surplus was looking to turn into an even bigger deficit around 2006.

So they were going to take a lot of the surplus and pay cash for things they'd usually issue bonds over like new K-12 schools to meet population growth needs, and additional conservation land under Florida Forever. And by doing that, he gave Crist and Scott more flexibility to try to manage the state budget post-housing crash because they didn't have to pay bond debt right off the bat. We're one of the ten lowest states in the country in terms of state government debt per capita in 2013.

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

Probably not


As shown in "The Curly Effect", politicians tend to promote policy which expands their constituency. Given that most poor, dependent people are democrats, the goal of democrat policy is to create more poor people.

Additionally, we have a government sponsored policy which encourages the poor and those of lower intellect to have more and more children. Thus, we not only have more poor people by virtue of economic policy, but also more idiots and poor via social policy.


So if one feels as though the state of the nation will improve with more poor and lower intellect citizens, then the "best years" of the US are ahead of us. If, on the other hand, you believe that hard working, intelligent people make a more prosperous nation, then perhaps our best years are behind us. With the majority of citizens being dependent and the average IQ at 96, the "keys to the kingdom" are in the hands of people who tend to make poor decisions in life. These "poor decisions" will help them in the short run, but will doom the nation as a whole.

Does anyone really think that poor, dependent people will suddenly vote AGAINST receiving more "free stuff", gain 20 IQ points, become more informed, and suddenly make rational decisions?

If one feels unemployment and poverty are currently high because millions are lazy, unproductive bums wanting handouts, then I'm sure you'll have a pessimistic outlook.

But if you see the current poor economy as not producing enough positions for willing workers, then it's just a temporary setback that will be remedied by economic recovery in the not too distant future.

I don't have a crystal ball, but I see a return to prosperity in coming years. Let's hope that another round of foolish "tax cuts and trickle-down" doesn't doom us to a repeat of the current dismal recession.

[HarryWho?]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

People seem to assume that Hispanics all vote Democrat.
The oddity in Texas is that many of them are very conservative and very religious.
They are not that far removed from their home country here and their culture is quite conservative in nature.

Now a few generations in the future might change that.

It's basically 54% Democrat vs. 38% Republican for the Hispanic population nationally. So there are quite a few voting conservatively. But you also have to look at the candidates. Romney only garnered 25% of their vote. The individual candidates platform affects the outcome.

[HarryWho?]

Originally Posted by PriusH8r

Promise more free stuff......Get more votes.

Promise to be fiscally responsible......Get voted out.

That is the world we live in today. There is no turning back. More voters than not simply want as much given to them, at the expense of someone else. And that happens in both parties. Voters are to blame for what the system has become. Politicians in both parties are simply putting on an act in order to convince their voting block that they really care and will actually make a difference. In the end, nothing really changes....no matter who is in charge. We spend more, we rack up more debt, we give more freebies. It just goes on and on and always will.

No sense arguing about it.

That may be true for a small percentage of the population, but I think more people want a little security in a fast paced, unpredictable world. Health care, retirement income, and the dignity of independence.

[HarryWho?]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Christie could be the answer to defeating the biggest problem this country faces, which is the partisan divide which has been sabotaging us for the past 20 years.

That's what they said about W. Things change when you approach the beltway.

[wjtwet]

Originally Posted by Dakster

Blame Governor Rick Scott... And this thread hit all of the issues I can think of why people are switching. Even Crist has switched parties.

What ever happened to the moderates on both sides? Why is everyone so extreme to one side or the other that we can't even keep the government running?

Lately, it's my way or no way at all. To the point that 'we the people' are suffering because of it.

No such thing as a Yeti, Martians or a moderate

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by HarryWho?

That's what they said about W. Things change when you approach the beltway.

I dont' rememember anyone saying that about W? The nation was divided under his watch.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by Dakster

Blame Governor Rick Scott... And this thread hit all of the issues I can think of why people are switching. Even Crist has switched parties.

What ever happened to the moderates on both sides? Why is everyone so extreme to one side or the other that we can't even keep the government running?

Lately, it's my way or no way at all. To the point that 'we the people' are suffering because of it.

Yes, Rick Scott has driven a lot of GOP supporters away.