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Old 11-24-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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Not only socialist, but I've seen her openly call herself "a Marxist." She is not going to get a takeover of Boeing. That's just pie-in-the-sky rhetoric. But I think she could well get a $15 minimum wage enacted for the city of Seattle. The result of that is that teenagers and others at the bottom of the job-skill scale are now shut out from employment. They can't get on at a crap job and begin the process of working their way up. I've also read that she wants to impose rent control.

What gets me is that she teaches economics at Seattle Central Community College, so presumably has been through micro-econ 101. How is it that she is teaching econ, and yet does not understand the futility of price controls?
what you seem to forget is the attitude of people like her. they know that wage and price controls havent worked in the past, but their arrogance lets them claim that the reason they didnt work in the past is because they didnt run them right, and that she will run them right. its the same thing with welfare, and other social programs, they dont work because we are not throwing enough money at them to make them work.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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what you seem to forget is the attitude of people like her. they know that wage and price controls havent worked in the past, but their arrogance lets them claim that the reason they didnt work in the past is because they didnt run them right, and that she will run them right. its the same thing with welfare, and other social programs, they dont work because we are not throwing enough money at them to make them work.
They keep this it will be the west cost Detroit.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Socialism is a one way street. Once you start going down that path you cannot undo things.
Once you start "sharing" and "subsidizing" you cannot rescind and end them.

Those that don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Socialism is a one way street. Once you start going down that path you cannot undo things.
Once you start "sharing" and "subsidizing" you cannot rescind and end them.



Those that don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.
Luckily after the collapse American Patriots will rebuild this republic.
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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We will not move, We want the Constitution enforced, why would we move to another country if that is our goal?

We are not a democracy, the sole reason it is nothing but mob rule. 50.01% can do anything to the 49.99%.
We are Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.
Well this is our country too, sorry you don't like that, and yes we are a Constitutional Republic, I was using democracy in its general term meaning freedom to elect whomever we choose.
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Socialism is a one way street. Once you start going down that path you cannot undo things.
Once you start "sharing" and "subsidizing" you cannot rescind and end them.

Those that don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.
Yep, and I am sure that means once Seattle elects one socialist city council member, that now means the entire city is socialist, thus means the state of Washington is now socialist, and because the state is in the country, that means the whole state is now socialist.
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Well this is our country too, sorry you don't like that, and yes we are a Constitutional Republic, I was using democracy in its general term meaning freedom to elect whomever we choose.
"Well this this is our country too"That is debateable, if you guys want really nothing we want, or the system of government we have, or the rights we enjoy, or the culture and customs, and values we have, or the economic system we have, really you want to mutilate America into a weaker, less free nation.
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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I have never seen this site pay so much attention to a random city council member before. Does this one city council member have any real power in the state of Washington?
you should be cheering. Her agenda is what you want.
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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So? People are free to elect whomever they want into office, enough people voted for her, that doesn't make all of Seattle a socialist city, but then again, I do recall people on this thread whining about the two party system, guess adding any third party to the mix is only acceptable when it is a party you approve of.

Again, what power does one random city council member have over every other member on that council? Do you think magically all the politicians of Washington are now going to become socialist because the state elected one socialist city councul member in one of its cities?
You seem to extremely uncomfortable with the discussion of ideas, so you're attempting to steer the discussion away from them by attempting to say "it doesn't matter, since she lacks power".

What, what liberals want to do only matters IF THEY CAN FORCE THEIR AGENDA on people? No, it's that you don't want people to know what you and your allies want to actually do.
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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She is speaking about nationalizing some factories, she does not have the authority to order workers to 'take them over'. She is concerned for the welfare of our workforce, a concept alien to the right.
Nobody with even half a brain thinks that.
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