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I have to say, I have never been hired by a poor person.
Yes, you have. You just don't realize it. When the poor buy products and services, they create demand. That demand signals employers to hire more employees to meet the demand. Without demand, companies need no employees.
I know how you look at it. The rich business owners -- I mean 'job creators,' hire people out of sheer benevolence and we should bow down and kiss their feet for their generosity and shower them with tax-breaks in gratitude for hiring us worthless peons.
Yes, you have. You just don't realize it. When the poor buy products and services, they create demand. That demand signals employers to hire more employees to meet the demand. Without demand, companies need no employees.
I know how you look at it. The rich business owners -- I mean 'job creators,' hire people out of sheer benevolence and we should bow down and kiss their feet for their generosity and shower them with tax-breaks in gratitude for hiring us worthless peons.
Yes, we need more poor people to increase demand in order to get our economy back on track.
Yes, we need more poor people to increase demand in order to get our economy back on track.
The current administration agrees with you and is in the process of creating many,many more of those (poor people) as we speak. Ssshhhh, don't tell anyone you know what's going on or they'll sick the IRS on you.
Where did you get that idea? If you base your contentions on false presumptions, its no wonder what you're saying doesn't make sense.
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Originally Posted by MTAtech
Yes, you have. You just don't realize it. When the poor buy products and services, they create demand. That demand signals employers to hire more employees to meet the demand. Without demand, companies need no employees.
Precisely. Correct and to the point as usual.
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Originally Posted by Kirdik
Yes, we need more poor people to increase demand in order to get our economy back on track.
It would be more efficient to have the existing people have more income, so that they can pay their own way and thereby create more economic activity themselves.
Where did you get that idea? If you base your contentions on false presumptions, its no wonder what you're saying doesn't make sense.
Precisely. Correct and to the point as usual.
It would be more efficient to have the existing people have more income, so that they can pay their own way and thereby create more economic activity themselves.
And since those existing "poor" people can't make more it's best to take it from others who are right?
Nope: It would be more efficient to have the existing people have more income, so that they can pay their own way and thereby create more economic activity themselves.
"It is axiomatic that a president who screws over half the population of the country in the most personal way cannot be regarded tenderly by history. By in effect imposing a massive tax increase disguised as health insurance cost increases, after promising that health care costs would go down, he risks what I have dubbed the Obamacare Recession hitting the country hard next year. Families are going to have cut spending on all sorts of discretionary purchases, and restaurants, hard goods producers, housing, and almost all other sectors of the economy are going to be hit hard"
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There can be no doubt that the above will prove to be true. When the government demands so much more of your personal income (with you getting nothing in return) the effect it will have on the economy is obvious.
Fewer dollars in circulation to buy goods and services. We will all be hurting. And, the Democrats cannot call it the Bush recession any longer. They own it entirely.
The rest of the above linked article will make you just as sick.
conservatives continue to drift further and further away from reality.
Nope: It would be more efficient to have the existing people have more income, so that they can pay their own way and thereby create more economic activity themselves.
Okay, now how exactly is that accomplished? Is it by taking (taxing) from those that make more and giving (tax credits) to those that don't? Is it creating more government programs (giveaways) for those that aren't doing well and then raising the deficit to pay for it which will eventually have to be paid back by someone (probably our kids,grandkids, great grandkids)?
Or, do you encourage all business to expand, encourage small business owners to hire more and/or give raises to employees? Do you set policies that make it easier for joe-down-the-block to start a business then encourage him and help him flourish? Do you set policies that encourage all companies to stay on-shore instead of creating incentives for them to move elsewhere?
We can begin to have that conversation when you sincerely agree with the overriding prioritization rather than simply looking for an excuse to deflect away from it.
Regardless, the reality is that when there is patient in critical condition medical professionals always do two things (1) stabilize the patient, and then (2) apply remediation to prevent recurrence. Right-wingers want to skip to step 2 ignoring step (1), probably because they aren't willing to care enough about the immediate victims of the problem to address the suffering imposed on them by the problem, or because doing so would adversely impact their comparatively petty concerns about their own comfort and luxury. So that's the answer: You do both. We're not going to eradicate poverty, and surely not overnight, but we do have an obligation to redress the impacts of poverty on satisfaction of basic needs, while we're seeking out solutions that better achieve full employment with living wage jobs.
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Ssshhhh, 
don't tell anyone you know what's going on or they'll sick the IRS on you.
