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Old 12-01-2013, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Invade? Sure they could invade. But....lets be realistic here...keeping any part of the US would be exceptionally hard without killing everyone. WAY too many guns. Toss in people willing to use chemical weapons, and knowledgeable enough to create them, and I have to say it would be crazy to contemplate it.

Those saying it wouldn't be a factor clearly do not have an understanding of the challenges involved.
Invading forces would need alive Americans for an invasion to succeed, not dead ones. The United Sates is far too large and varied to ever hold without native citizens help and assistance. And no American will ever assist an invading force willingly and would never assist for long. We learned that ourselves in Iraq, and our lesson was closely observed by all of our foes, present or possible in the future.

We won't ever be invaded. Invasion and occupation are things of the past now, and there are huge areas in the world that are much easier to get what invasion achieves than the U.S.

What would the purpose of an invasion be? Our culture has already been absorbed by the rest of the world. Our only great natural resource left in over-abundance is coal, and coal is found all over the planet. Our technology has already been exported and reverse engineered. Our population is aging.

What do we have that another country wants enough to commit everything they have to an invasion? The answer is nothing. Everything we have is not worth the price to another nation.

Ask yourself; what country has what we want so much that we would be willing to pay the costs of invasion? Again the answer is none. Do millions of us want to live in China more than here? Or any other country? Is any other country so fine as to build our national envy to the point of invasion? Nope.

We just ain't so special anymore.
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:11 PM
 
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This is why we haven't had an alien invasion. The space aliens are afraid of our guns.
LOL... there is great quote from that Asian scientists that is on a lot of these space shows. As he described it becsue of the tech necessary to get here ".... it would be like Godzilla vs. a mouse."
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Old 12-01-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Like England? The Brits said they'd NEVER surrender. All that came back and bit the Nazis in the butt.
No, not like England. England did not plan on giving up essential territory and retreating into a national redoubt. Mostly because their anti-tank ditch, while not as impressive as the Pacific, still was about 20 nautical miles wide. And because their navy allowed them to mostly control their supply lines, so they could not be easily blockaded. Switzerland had neither of these luxuries.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:01 PM
 
Location: In Your Head
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I love the original, the remake is just horrid.
The fat kid from Drake & Josh ruined it with his disgusting looks and incessant whining.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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What do the experts think? Could a foreign army ever invade the US with 300,000,000 guns held by our population?
Absolutely they could. To think it couldn't happen is very naive on our part
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Old 12-01-2013, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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What would the purpose of an invasion be? Our culture has already been absorbed by the rest of the world. Our only great natural resource left in over-abundance is coal, and coal is found all over the planet. Our technology has already been exported and reverse engineered. Our population is aging.
While I agree with much of what you said, I think you are overlooking a few of our natural resources. Alaska still has lots of oil, but Democrats will not allow access. In addition to huge coal resources, Alaska also has the world's largest lead and zinc mine, huge quantities of molybdenum, copper, gold, and platinum, plus large quantities of heavy metals (such as lithium, tantalum, and cesium). The vast majority of these resources still remain in the ground, for the time being. That is just one State.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:48 AM
 
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Our only great natural resource left in over-abundance is coal, and coal is found all over the planet. Our technology has already been exported and reverse engineered. Our population is aging.
Our "only" one? Instead of me listing what we do have you tell me what we don't have.

As far as the coal goes the us controls about 27 percent of the worlds supply. Another 30+ percent is controlled by Russia and China and if you take China as an example they may have 3 or 4 decades left.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:08 AM
 
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Wouldn't be much fun to "occupy" a radioactive wasteland.
They may not want to occupy but just drain the world of some natural resource that is important to them, Also destroying Americas infrastructure would have most of the population dead from starvation within a month,at that point those survivors would have little effect on the alien invasion.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Our "only" one? Instead of me listing what we do have you tell me what we don't have.

As far as the coal goes the us controls about 27 percent of the worlds supply. Another 30+ percent is controlled by Russia and China and if you take China as an example they may have 3 or 4 decades left.
One of Alaska's major exports -- coal -- has been racking up record shipments over the past couple of years. Coal developers buoyed by Asia's energy boom and soaring coal prices are contemplating even more expansion in Alaska. The price of coal exported to Asia -- a main destination for Alaska's coal for the past 25 years -- has more than doubled in the past five years.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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They may not want to occupy but just drain the world of some natural resource that is important to them, Also destroying Americas infrastructure would have most of the population dead from starvation within a month,at that point those survivors would have little effect on the alien invasion.
That is where such an invasion becomes dubious at best. As it was previously pointed out, we are far more economically bound together globally than we have ever been. The US may consume 25% of the world's resources, but it also produces 25% of the world's wealth. An occupying force invading the US would hurt their own country's economy in the process. Not to mention harming the economy of other nations across the planet.

One of the reasons why China has not invaded Taiwan, despite Taiwan's talk of independence, is because it would destroy much of Taiwan's infrastructure and economy. Taiwan has an extremely strong economy that benefits China considerably.

It is not like sanctions or embargoes have had any effect on nations where they have been used. Nor did those nations being sanctioned ever invade the country that embargoed them. They just obtained the resources they required from another source.

Foreign invasion for the purposes of occupation is like soooo last century.
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