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This is a prime example that you should NEVER enter into a business.. Or maybe you should so we can laugh at you when it fails in weeks 1 and 2 rather than years out like most.
But he can spend of rest of his life saying "I paid my employees more than minimum wage, right up until the day I went out of business".
So the chest beating about minimum wage employees not being paid higher than 1967 is not emotional. Uh, because they are.....
Nope, just based on facts. The less money people earn from their place of employment the more they need from government assistance. I have no interest in funding businesses that can't afford or choose not to pay their lowest wage employees below the cost of living wage.
OK, so the business doesn't make enough to earn a profit. You want to pay employees more, but are taking in less. So where exactly does this cash come from, to pay your employees?
If a business isn't earning a profit, they have more problems to worry about and no lowering of the minimum wage is going to fix that.
But he can spend of rest of his life saying "I paid my employees more than minimum wage, right up until the day I went out of business".
You have obviously never had Dave's Killer Bread, it is worth the extra amount. Also why would I hire employees just for the sake of hiring? I would want to make sure my business is stable before adding new employees so that I can afford to pay them a good wage and still turn a profit. This isn't rocket science.
Nope, just based on facts. The less money people earn from their place of employment the more they need from government assistance.
Only if you accept that false dilemma, which is founded on the premise that everyone is owed something by everyone else virtue of simply existing, thus being born makes you either slave or enslaver. Is that your position? That I am the slave of someone else because they exist?
So you can afford to pay more than minimum wage but you don't want to.
Urbanlife78,
Like I said before, labor is just another product. Would you pay 20% more for the same TV, DVD, groceries, cloths, furniture etc. sold in Costco than the ones sold in WalMart? It really doesn't matter your answer is yes or no because you aren't running a business.
When we are running a business, we are constantly looking for ways to reduce our cost, meaning buying cheaper products. If Vendor B sells the same product cheaper than Vendor A while providing the same level of customer service and support, there's no reason for me not to switch. Doing that would maximize my profit, and that profit would be used to pay the employees who work for me.
Same thing goes with the labor. If I can pay Gentleman B less than A for the same position both are applying for, unless A can provide a better service, I am going to hire B.
It's not "I don't want to", and it's not a personal decision made out of spite. It is a rational business decision all geared towards maximizing the profit so that my company can grow/survive and my employees can get a raise/bonus.
Only if you accept that false dilemma, which is founded on the premise that everyone is owed something by everyone else virtue of simply existing, thus being born makes you either slave or enslaver. Is that your position? That I am the slave of someone else because they exist?
For some people, their mere existence entitles them to other people's asset, particularly after they find out that they can vote to take other people's asset.
Urbanlife. You still haven't said what your job/business is? You say why be in business if you can't pay employees, we'll why be in business if you can't afford employees which is your situation. I never said no to a raise, I can make that difference up in charging 10 cents more for everything.
When someone goes to school that spends time and money to earn an education and get a degree , they earn a reward of good pay not minimum wage.
When someone doesn't do this at all why she he or she make a great pay when the abilities are limited and don't produce profits?
Should I pay the person working a register as much as a chef that took a culinary class ?
I was born so you have to feed me.
I have job that requires no skills and every Joe Blow with 2 brain cells can do but you still have to pay me at least $X/hour.
I don't have money so you have to give me some.
I have babies and I don't know who the fathers are, even I do, they have no money so you have to feed them and my babies in addition to the one I am about to pop.
I have no health insurance but you need to cover it for me.
I don't pay taxes but I think everybody else isn't paying enough, and you need to make them pay more tax.
If you don't agree, you are a heartless right wing nut job who only cares about money.
When we are running a business, we are constantly looking for ways to reduce our cost, meaning buying cheaper products. If Vendor B sells the same product cheaper than Vendor A while providing the same level of customer service and support, there's no reason for me not to switch. Doing that would maximize my profit, and that profit would be used to pay the employees who work for me.
Same thing goes with the labor. If I can pay Gentleman B less than A for the same position both are applying for, unless A can provide a better service, I am going to hire B.
It's not "I don't want to", and it's not a personal decision made out of spite. It is a rational business decision all geared towards maximizing the profit so that my company can grow/survive and my employees can get a raise/bonus.
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