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Not sure what he bases that 18,000 figure on because he continually refuses to answer the question.
Harrier has answered this question - in an appropriate thread.
He responded to a direct question from you, in fact.
Apparently, you don't monitor threads in which you have asked questions to see if you received an answer.
Harrier won't act as your secretary - you can find the answer yourself.
This thread is about the validity of the theory of evolution, and you have still not answered these two pertinent questions, despite being asked many, many times over the course of the last few days.
Why do you believe that there is observable evidence for evolution?
What is your definition of evolution?
Quit deflecting and answer the questions so that we can progress into a productive discussion, please.
It would be pretty cool to be able to say my son is God and I am God's father, though...and it be scientifically true.
That would be awesome!
We either have just done it or are on the verge of creating a computer with the processing capacity of a human brain. I forget how many years we're away (but it's not that many as computing power grows exponentially) we are from having a computer that has the computing power of all the people in a city...country...world....
You think everything around you happened by accident then?
That is not the only other option.
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If I wait long enough, will a 1964 Corvette appear in front of me by accident?
No. It won't. Perhaps you should study the science a little more... at least enough to come up with analogies that are not quite that clueless.
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The universe is about a billion times more complex and if that happened by accident I would think a Corvette should pop up every couple of minutes right?
Complexity has nothing to do with it. And the universe did not pop into existence. If the laws of conservation and causality are true (and we have never, in all of human history, witnessed a violation of them) then the universe must necessarily be eternal and uncreated.
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There is not a worse blockhead than a blockhead that will not see what is right in front of their eyes.
Sure there is. It is the blockhead who sees something that is not there at all.
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It says it right in the bible "you have eyes, but you do not see"
It also says that bats are birds, locusts have four legs, and that the earth is flat and does not move.
Perhaps it is for the purpose it was created. Do you know God's purpose in creating all of this? Your definition of perfect and God's may be two different things. In God's perfect plan, we get free choice. Unfortunately, that means we have the freedom to do really bad things. The plan isn't what is imperfect. Our choices are.
If you believe that god is omniscient, then you're going to have to come up with a better explanation. Because an omniscient anything and free will are mutually exclusive concepts.
Before I start with this, I just want to briefly comment on your previous post, which claims that evolution debunks intelligent design, and by association, creation.
Do you see why people have heatburn with you all? Never a straight answer, or honesty. You have also admitted (but only after being cornered) that evolution can't disprove creation. Is there some discrete difference between "disprove" and "debunk" which saves you from the earned label of a classic Darwinian Double Talker?
Now, let's procede with this next serving of Orwellian Stew,
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Because there are too many unintelligent and clearly poorly 'designed' features and vestigial body parts in the human body that could really only be explained by the step by step very gradual process of evolution by natural selection - not by an intelligent designer. Unless that designer was really incompetent?
Wait .... if evolution takes so long because it's so rare that a mutation provides a beneficial change, and is thusly passed on via natural selection, how did all of these poor traits get kept, and passed on? Seems to me, these would have never been kept, if they are as useless, incompetent and faulty as you suggest?
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Like not being able to breathe and swallow food at the same time?
Perhaps this impediment actually prevents us from aspirating food into our lungs, causing severe injury and death?
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LIke Humans and other primates not being able to synthesize their own vitamin C unlike other animals because the gene that controls that became defective early on and was passed on in earlier primates?
Classic example of how genetic mutation is an error, and not beneficial to the victim of the mutation. Why did natural selection select this rather obvious downgrade to pass on?
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Like too many teeth in humans for the size of the jaw?
Like poor sinus drainage?
Like the retina of the human eye being 'inside out' resulting in a blind spot?
Like the organs for reproduction and waste being so close to together resulting in infections being common?
Like weak points in the abdominal wall where hernias can form?
All of these and a lot more are 'leftovers' or 'vestigial' signs of humans evolving from earlier forms of life.
Again, if these are all negative outcomes, why did natural selection keep them all these millions of years ... indeed how did they even survive in the earlier pre human ancestor? Seems like natural selection has too many flaws ... at least in human evolution, to account for all of the wonderous and unique aspects of billions of other life forms, who must have superior traits. Why were humans so short changed, and not allowed to keep those superior eyes, teeth, simultaneous breathing-eating capability .. and the others you mentioned? Isn't evolution supposed to be natural, unbiased, and just a process of keeping beneficial changes, while discarding those that do not benefit the organism's survival?
You want to know what this sounds like? It sounds like you have less appreciation for humans than you do of God. More like disdain, if truth be told.
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