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Old 01-12-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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I think there are more people than you might think in the US who take the Bible literally when it comes to evolution or creation:

Pew Research Polls - On Darwin - Creationism


So what are your views about evolution? How do you fit it with creation?
We were created through billions of years of evolution by an intelligent designer.

I cannot fathom how someone believes that everything that we see popped into existence.

 
Old 01-12-2014, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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We were created through billions of years of evolution by an intelligent designer.

I cannot fathom how someone believes that everything that we see popped into existence.
You believe in an intelligent designer that has always existed. Seems a tad less plausible.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Hahahaha ... very funny. And to think countless anthropologists the world over have been tediously sifting through countless tons of dirt for 150 years for evidence of evolution, and all they needed to do was tickle you with a feather! . Who knew ?

Sorry to say that the only thing your goose bumps are evidence of is hair follicles, and not that your great, great, great, great, great grandfather was a hairy ape ... not to say that he wasn't, euphemistically speaking, of course!
Ans why do we have hair follicles all over our bodies if we don't need them?
 
Old 01-12-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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When you split an atom, does one side end up with more ribs than the other?
I don't know ... I've never personally split an atom.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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We were created through billions of years of evolution by an intelligent designer.

I cannot fathom how someone believes that everything that we see popped into existence.
I cannot fathom how someone believes that everything we see popped into existence by magic.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Hahahaha ... very funny. And to think countless anthropologists the world over have been tediously sifting through countless tons of dirt for 150 years for evidence of evolution, and all they needed to do was tickle you with a feather! . Who knew ?

Sorry to say that the only thing your goose bumps are evidence of is hair follicles, and not that your great, great, great, great, great grandfather was a hairy ape ... not to say that he wasn't, euphemistically speaking, of course!
Yep, goosebumps are a remnant of the evolution of humans from animals.

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Goosebumps are a physiological phenomenon inherited from our animal ancestors, which was useful to them but are not of much help to us. Goosebumps are tiny elevations of the skin that resemble the skin of poultry after the feathers have been plucked. (Therefore we could as well call them "turkeybumps" or "duckbumps.") These bumps are caused by a contraction of miniature muscles that are attached to each hair. Each contracting muscle creates a shallow depression on the skin surface, which causes the surrounding area to protrude. The contraction also causes the hair to stand up whenever the body feels cold. In animals with a thick hair coat this rising of hair expands the layer of air that serves as insulation. The thicker the hair layer, the more heat is retained. In people this reaction is useless because we do not have a hair coat, but goosebumps persist nevertheless.
Why do humans get "goosebumps" when they are cold, or under other circumstances?: Scientific American
 
Old 01-12-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Where in the bible does it say Adam and Eve walked with dinosaurs?
Ken Ham, the guy Bill Nye will be debating believes exactly that.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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Because ID is not even a good hypothesis and has already been debunked and exposed as Creationism with a few 'sciency sounding' ideas like Michael Behe's Irreducible Complexity?

Ken Miller (your fellow Catholic who believes in God) was called on as an expert biologist in the Kitzmiller v Dover trial). He totally decimated the ID claims and the deceitful tactics used by Creationists to try to get Creationism/ID taught in science classes.


Ken Miller on Intelligent Design And The Kitzmiller-Dover Trial - YouTube
How the hell does one who exists "debunk" that fact of creation?

I think that in an open, tolerant society all theories should be looked at, otherwise, we're robbing children of education.

The words "God" and "Intelligent Design" can be left out, if needed, but how do you, in a science class explain where everything came from without broaching the subject?

What's wrong with asking the question "where did we all come from?"?

Asking that question in a science class is not only right, but logical.

If a student says "My parents told me that God created everything.", how is that in any way unconstitutional? After all, the public school system has no qualms about bashing the Christian Crusaders in history class.

Lefties are and always have been afraid of religion.....the very first thing socialists and commies do is replace religion with the state, which is in itself a religion.

That is indisputable.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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Because there are too many unintelligent and clearly poorly 'designed' features and vestigial body parts in the human body that could really only be explained by the step by step very gradual process of evolution by natural selection - not by an intelligent designer. Unless that designer was really incompetent?

Like not being able to breathe and swallow food at the same time?

LIke Humans and other primates not being able to synthesize their own vitamin C unlike other animals because the gene that controls that became defective early on and was passed on in earlier primates?

Like too many teeth in humans for the size of the jaw?

Like poor sinus drainage?

Like the retina of the human eye being 'inside out' resulting in a blind spot?

Like the organs for reproduction and waste being so close to together resulting in infections being common?

Like weak points in the abdominal wall where hernias can form?

All of these and a lot more are 'leftovers' or 'vestigial' signs of humans evolving from earlier forms of life.
I couldn't care less that we, as humans, share some of the biological traits of other animals.

We are the only species that we know of who's brain becomes a mind.
 
Old 01-12-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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But all we know is that a "quantum event" occurred. The uncertainty principle only "represents" what we believe to be happening. There is nothing scientific about quantum physics. It's a model of reality and it just isn't real.
Not real? Then explain this... https://uwaterloo.ca/institute-for-q...-computing-101
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