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Old 02-06-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Well it's common sense.
Earn $1 over the cap and you lose $12,000-$20,000 in subsidies.
Who is going to give up $12K of government money ?

These people will watch their salaries like hawks.
At at $75-80K a year they may have bonuses, overtime, stock dividends, commissions, etc.
We're talking middle class folks here now, not poverty level with no real additional income.
yep. the disincentives are glaringly obvious to all non-bots.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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yep. the disincentives are glaringly obvious to all non-bots.
That's the only type of program the government ever offers.
All or none and you can never replace all in one shot here.

And the decline of America just put it's foot on the gas.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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Republicans enjoy seeing people trapped in their jobs, due to fear of losing their employer provided insurance.
/FAIL

It was Democrats and unions which started the crap of linking insurance to their employers

ACA wasnt supposed to unlink the employer insurance link.. It was supposed to provide insurance to people who didnt have it..

I love how the left continues to move the goal post in order to define success..
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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YOUR OWN LINK says thats true. Did you even read it?

They not only said its true, but they went on to justify it.
But the WH has rejected the report and say it's incomplete.
FB has to go along with them.

Can the WH just reject a CBO report and carry on ?
if that's the case can any other agency just "reject" CBO reports on them as well ?
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:28 AM
 
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The "Obamacare Cliff" what one website calls it can be fixed as well as the 400% FPL. The Republican Plan though cuts off subsidies at 300% of FPL and of course taxes almost everyone with employer provided insurance to pay for the subsidies. By the way its been ok for years for older unmarried couples to "live in sin" to avoid taxes or collect a benefit like Medicaid but if a young couple finds a way to do the same thing they are freeloaders.
Obaamcare also taxes everyone, not just those with an employer provided insurance.

How do you think its beign paid for?
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:29 AM
 
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But the WH has rejected the report and say it's incomplete.
FB has to go along with them.

Can the WH just reject a CBO report and carry on ?
if that's the case can any other agency just "reject" CBO reports on them as well ?
Whats comical about it, is the CBO operates under the White House department.. So how can they reject a report that comes from their own administration?

They cant.. Its a total joke now that they are running around making excuses for their own failure trying to justify it as a positive.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Tell that to Pelosi! Does she think if it is passed, we are going to suddenly embrace this crap.
I think she did think we would embrace this crap
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by mohawkx View Post
The 2 million figure is over a period of 10 years. That works out to 200,000 a year. Heck, in November 2013, the US economy added 241,000 jobs just for that month. Looking at the bigger picture, that figure is not much at all, unless you're an Obama Hater and looking for an issue to complain about.

U.S. Economy Added 175,000 Private-Sector Jobs in January, According to ADP National Employment Report.


ADP National Employment Report | NER

U.S. Payroll to Population Rate Falls to 42.0% in January

http://www.gallup.com/poll/167336/pa...s-january.aspx

The smaller picture...

Mircea
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Well it's common sense.
Earn $1 over the cap and you lose $12,000-$20,000 in subsidies.
Who is going to give up $12K of government money ?

These people will watch their salaries like hawks.
At at $75-80K a year they may have bonuses, overtime, stock dividends, commissions, etc.
We're talking middle class folks here now, not poverty level with no real additional income.
I hadn't considered that.

Where do you think SIVs (Structured Investment Vehicles) and CDOs (Collateralized Debt Obligations) came from?

Very clever accountants.

You can rest assured accountants will find a way to push small business owners and others in the Middle Class down into the subsidy bracket.

Cleverly.....

Mircea
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:42 AM
 
Location: North America
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hopenchange FTW.

Because people who orginally got healthcare through their employers had to work 40 hours. Now, because that is no longer the case, the EMPLOYEES not the EMPLOYERS are cutting back their hours.

Nice spin.
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