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Old 02-05-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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The republican outrage is rich: "how dare you not work in the crappy jobs provided by the 'job creators', now that access to health care no longer holds you hostage!" I bet the plantation owners used similar logic on their former slaves.

So much for the 'right to work'. (Which inherently implies a right not to).
They are reducing their hours so they can get others to pay for their healthcare and cant increase their income thus its ACA holding them hostage to lower incomes.

I thought you cared about wealth inequality? Now you are celebrating it..

Are all Democrats this dumb?
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Pa
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so quote where the CBO says 2 to 5 million people will leave the workforce ?
whoops my mistake, 2.5 million will leave the full time work force. I worked a 16 hour shift eyes are fuzzy. My mistake. That said... going part time from full time drop in taxable wages. ACA with its hefty deductibles. Yep I can see how that is a good thing. Or maybe not.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They are reducing their hours so they can get others to pay for their healthcare and cant increase their income thus its ACA holding them hostage to lower incomes.

I thought you cared about wealth inequality? Now you are celebrating it..

Are all Democrats this dumb?
No different then the poor not working more hours cause they'll lose their benefits.
Now we have the middle class doing it.

ROFL..

We've gone from "Where's the jobs" to "I don't want to work so much now".

This will come back to bite them when they turn 67 and get a $300 SS check with no other savings.
Not to fear..they got myRA..$5 a month for the next 30 years and they'll have $5K for retirement.
See..Obama is taking care of the working man who doesn't want to work so much anymore.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:03 PM
 
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No different then the poor not working more hours cause they'll lose their benefits.
Now we have the middle class doing it.

ROFL..

We've gone from "Where's the jobs" to "I don't want to work so much now".

This will come back to bite them when they turn 67 and get a $300 SS check with no other savings.
No it wont because we'll have millions more demanding senior citizen high rises on the taxpayers dime, government paid utility bills and every other benefit you can imagine.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:04 PM
 
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No, they are making a rational economic decision based on new market conditions. Why do you hate the free market?

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They are reducing their hours so they can get others to pay for their healthcare and cant increase their income thus its ACA holding them hostage to lower incomes.

I thought you cared about wealth inequality? Now you are celebrating it..

Are all Democrats this dumb?
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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No, they are making a rational economic decision based on new market conditions. Why do you hate the free market?
There is nothing about thsi thats the free market.

Care to address the increase in wealth inequality that will come from it? Or is that now suddenly ok?
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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They are reducing their hours so they can get others to pay for their healthcare and cant increase their income thus its ACA holding them hostage to lower incomes.

I thought you cared about wealth inequality? Now you are celebrating it..

Are all Democrats this dumb?
What did I tell you right-wingers back in October about celebrating victory in the 1st quarter?

The Buried Lede In The CBO Report: Obamacare Will Raise Wages - Business Insider
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No, they are making a rational economic decision based on new market conditions. Why do you hate the free market?
Obamacare is a mandate with penalties, restrictions and fines.
There's nothing "free market" about this at all.

This is the result of government butting into the free market system with subsidies for all.

We have a controlled and regulated market now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market
A free market contrasts with a controlled market or regulated market, in which government intervenes in supply and demand through non-market methods such as laws controlling who is allowed to enter the market, mandating what type of product or service is supplied, or directly setting prices.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:10 PM
 
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What did I tell you right-wingers back in October about celebrating victory in the 1st quarter?

The Buried Lede In The CBO Report: Obamacare Will Raise Wages - Business Insider
Exactly.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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What did I tell you right-wingers back in October about celebrating victory in the 1st quarter?

The Buried Lede In The CBO Report: Obamacare Will Raise Wages - Business Insider
Your link is full of **** and the CBO report validates it as garbage.

If people are working less and the employers arent making up the 92M lost hours of labor, the demand for labor decreases, not increases..

If your link was correct, there wouldnt be 92M hours of lost labor, it would be a net change of ZERO, but the CBO is admitting there are hours lost or the end result wouldnt caculate to 2.3 million full time jobs gone

You cant earn more for the purpose of obtaining subsidies, you have to earn less.. Thats the dam reason for the decline in hours..
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