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One thing I really like about California is you never see idiots with guns hanging off of their belts.
You don't have cops in California anymore? Not that cops are idiots, but neither is someone who chooses to protect themselves. In fact, I'd say that objecting to someone being able to protect themselves is kind of idiotic, but each to their own.
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA
Many of the "open carry" people do it because a) it compensates for their feelings of inferiority, or b) they have a hero complex. Unless you're out hunting, at the gun range, or working on a ranch, you don't need open carry. No need to walk through Home Depot with a rifle over your shoulder. It's stupid.
First of all, "open carry" isn't typically used to describe the carrying of a rifle. You're going to the extreme and acting like it's the norm. There's a name for that type of intellectual dishonesty, but it's early and I can't recall it right now.
Second, it's clear you've never carried a gun before. Carrying concealed, regardless of how you're carrying, is uncomfortable. The only exceptions are when you can belt carry with a jacket on, or if you're using a shoulder holster, again with a jacket. When I carried in NV, it was open unless I was going to a casino, in which case I carried something much smaller in my pocket.
Why do people who know nothing about guns have such strong emotional reactions to the debate? Asking for real. What else do you care so much about, that you don't actually have any connection to? Do you think it's possible that your opinion on this topic has been shaped by external forces? Maybe? Have you ever even thought about how you formed your virulent anti-gun positions? I'll bet you haven't.
One thing I really like about California is you never see idiots with guns hanging off of their belts.
Many of the "open carry" people do it because a) it compensates for their feelings of inferiority, or b) they have a hero complex. Unless you're out hunting, at the gun range, or working on a ranch, you don't need open carry. No need to walk through Home Depot with a rifle over your shoulder. It's stupid.
How often do you think people living in fly-over country see stuff like that?
I can't remember the last time I saw open carry on a holster and the rifle over shoulder bit is extremely rare. I've only seen the latter at gun shows and that's kinda the place for that as people are buying\trading\selling.
It's a over-blown meme like if you visit Chicago there is a good chance you'll see a shooting.
Your intake of seeing these people is no doubt from the media and not personal experience? Careful how you build perceptions based upon tasty affirmation stories.
I can't tell you how many right-wingers I've had to set straight over the years about the "dangers of Chicago" and how that's a farce (unless you're involved in gangs\drugs there).
Frankly you sound like they do. Biased by your information intake.
Some states don't require registration. Texas is one. If I buy a firearm from an FFL holder, the only paperwork is the Federal form 4473, followed by the NICS check. There are no state forms, no requirement to go visit the police to get permission to buy, nothing except pay your money and take your firearm home. If I buy, or am gifted a firearm, from a private party, there is zero paperwork.
If you think there is not a registry being created by government(the enemy) every time you submit to a background check or do a CCL, you are not thinking clearly.
I have more guns it would be considered an arsenal... I have never filled out a government document. Why? Because I know, that is nothing but a registry and it is none of the governments business.
Strikes down laws, statutes, and government actions that violate the Constitution of the United States.
Marbury v. Madison-1803; 5 U.S. 137,1 Cranch 137, 2 L.Ed. 60
Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.
MIRANDA v. ARIZONA, 384 US 436, 491
The claim and exercise of a constitutional Right cannot be converted into a crime.
MILLER v. U.S., 230 F. 486, 489
There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional Rights.
SNERER v. CULLEN, 481 F. 946
The government has no authority to "fill in the blanks". The blanks are what is considered personal liberty of the individual.
Government cannot take ownership of words. The people own the words used, without altering and manipulating.
"Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property ... and is regarded as inalienable."
16 C.J.S., Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987
If you think there is not a registry being created by government(the enemy) every time you submit to a background check or do a CCL, you are not thinking clearly.
I have more guns it would be considered an arsenal... I have never filled out a government document. Why? Because I know, that is nothing but a registry and it is none of the governments business.
I don't consider the government the enemy. Government is a necessary function for a civilized and productive society.
The original question was from a NJ resident, and I am assuming they were talking about explicit state registration. I am not going to worry about the Federal stuff, since just about everything I've bought that had a 4473 or background check has been sold to my good friend who died a number of years back after I lost touch with him. As far as anyone knows, anyway. Other items were bought from a guy whose records somehow got burned up in a house fire, at least as far as anyone knows. He's dead too. Then there was the other piece that my idiot friend wanted to shoot while fishing offshore. That idiot dropped it overboard in 300 feet of water, somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico, at least as far as anyone knows.
I don't consider the government the enemy. Government is a necessary function for a civilized and productive society.
The original question was from a NJ resident, and I am assuming they were talking about explicit state registration. I am not going to worry about the Federal stuff, since just about everything I've bought that had a 4473 or background check has been sold to my good friend who died a number of years back after I lost touch with him. As far as anyone knows, anyway. Other items were bought from a guy whose records somehow got burned up in a house fire, at least as far as anyone knows. He's dead too. Then there was the other piece that my idiot friend wanted to shoot while fishing offshore. That idiot dropped it overboard in 300 feet of water, somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico, at least as far as anyone knows.
Government is the enemy of Freedoms & Liberties.
Government constantly thinks of the people as their property, to oppress.
Strikes down laws, statutes, and government actions that violate the Constitution of the United States.
Marbury v. Madison-1803; 5 U.S. 137,1 Cranch 137, 2 L.Ed. 60
Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.
MIRANDA v. ARIZONA, 384 US 436, 491
The claim and exercise of a constitutional Right cannot be converted into a crime.
MILLER v. U.S., 230 F. 486, 489
There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional Rights.
SNERER v. CULLEN, 481 F. 946
The government has no authority to "fill in the blanks". The blanks are what is considered personal liberty of the individual.
Government cannot take ownership of words. The people own the words used, without altering and manipulating.
"Personal liberty, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or natural Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property ... and is regarded as inalienable."
16 C.J.S., Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987
Someone needs to challenge the ATFs, class 3/ NFA laws, its ridiculous how many hoops they make people jump thru in order to own machine guns.
Some states don't require registration. Texas is one. If I buy a firearm from an FFL holder, the only paperwork is the Federal form 4473, followed by the NICS check. There are no state forms, no requirement to go visit the police to get permission to buy, nothing except pay your money and take your firearm home. If I buy, or am gifted a firearm, from a private party, there is zero paperwork.
So can an out of stater buy in Tex or do they need to see license? If they just need to see license, and not register that transaction, then I imagine its like underage drinking at the bar. The act must be easy to get away with.
So can an out of stater buy in Tex or do they need to see license? If they just need to see license, and not register that transaction, then I imagine its like underage drinking at the bar. The act must be easy to get away with.
Out of staters can buy long guns under Federal law, since there is no prohibition in Texas law. However, if you can't buy a long gun in your home state sue to state law, you can't buy one in Texas. You have to fill out a 4473 as well, since out of stater purchases, under Federal law, must be done through an FFL holder. More info here https://guides.sll.texas.gov/gun-law...g-transferring and here https://faq.sll.texas.gov/questions/44008
Out of staters can buy long guns under Federal law, since there is no prohibition in Texas law. However, if you can't buy a long gun in your home state sue to state law, you can't buy one in Texas. You have to fill out a 4473 as well, since out of stater purchases, under Federal law, must be done through an FFL holder. More info here https://guides.sll.texas.gov/gun-law...g-transferring and here https://faq.sll.texas.gov/questions/44008
That is the definition of 'infringement' for petes sake! LOL
NO American citizen should be complying with such laws.
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