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conservatives do not care about reality when it comes to public policy.
Again, conservative opinion of the ACA wasn't going to change no matter how the policy works.
If people didn't enroll, would call it a disaster, if people do enroll, conservatives will be angry about the subsidizes. For the ACA, It was lose, lose in their opinion no matter what occurs. This is a sign that this isn't about policy.
conservatives decide to like a program by asking the question, who, as is in who is creating this program and who will benefit from this program.
The ACA in conservative's minds was created by the President Obama and the Democratic party, people who they don't identify with and in conservatives minds the ACA will help Americans who don't look like them and who don't deserve the help, so for conservatives more signups is a huge negative.
Nice try to spin it, but one paragraph sums up ACA "success" perfectly:
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While successfully urging Congress to pass a sweeping health-care law in 2009 and early 2010, President Obama and his allies made three main promises. The law would reduce premiums, dramatically expand coverage, and leave people who liked their insurance plans and doctors undisturbed. With the official sign-up period for Obamacare’s exchanges now over, we can say that none of those promises have been kept.
Bottom line. And all of the politically painful downsides to making even the shaky math of the ACA work...yeah, they keep being delayed in an effort to save Democrat hides in elections.
So when it comes to spin, go ahead and forget the entire 2009/2010 propaganda campaign, all the lies, and go ahead and pretend that the entire law was sold to the American people as "on net, we'll expand CHIP and Medicaid somewhat, cancel as many policies as we enroll, and might have maybe a 2-4% decrease in the number of uninsured by April of 2014, all with higher costs to everyone!!"
You make your payment directly to the insurer - not through any back-end in the healthcare.gov website. Once you sign up you get a notification from the insurer with your account number, account info, and payment options. If you signed up on March 31st your policy will start on on May 1st and you have until then to make your first premium payment.
The only problem with that is, without the back end being built, your information cannot be sent to any insurance company. Do your homework.
You paid whom with a credit card? Did the Federal Government draft payment from your credit card, or did the insurance company draft payment from your credit card?
Anthem blue shield, the site re directed me to them.
The majority of people will be billed directly from their new insurance companies. They will write checks directly to the insurance companies. Or they will set up auto-drafts. Or some other way. BECAUSE there are lots of ways to make payment.
You don't know what the "back end" of a Website is?
How does the insurance company receive your personal information? That is what the back end is all about. Without that, the process cannot begin.
Some of them believe that the 8 year old kid with cancer only needs to put a donation can on the counter of the convenience store and all will be well.
As someone who's had a lot of cancer in my family, this is very offensive.
Typical Lib. Conservatives have always been way more Charitable than you guys.
I can't tell if you are being deliberately obtuse. As pointed out in this thread and others - you don't pay the government, you pay the insurer. You sign up through healthcare.gov, the insurer then sends you a welcome email and snail mail with account details and payment options.
When you buy something on ebay, do you pay ebay, or do you pay those who are providing services that are listed on ebays website?
The fact that you arent payiing the government, doesnt mean they shouldnt have the ability for you to pay the insurance company thorugh a website used to obtain insurance for the companies listed.
People who are already insured through employers or otherwise do not need to buy policies on the exchanges in the first place. Also, keep in mind that the total population figure isn't going to match the number of policies. Minors, dependents , people on Medicaid and Medicare, those getting medical through the VA - none of them will go policy-shopping.
The ACA of course had other goals - doing away with lifetime caps, doing away with the pre-existing condition nonsense, and forcing the insurers to use 80% of their premium intake on funding medical assistance.
And those other goals are very good, but couldn't they have been accomplished without requiring people to sign up and fining those who didn't?
Surely some will not pay, and will remain uninsured. The industry has reported their individual company unpaid as of now run rates vary from 20-50%. I've never seen an employer whose COBRA premiums are paid early, either, so my bet would be the 20-50% drops dramatically by the due date, with a small percentage not insured.
And it matters little, ACA is the law of the land. We need to hope it runs smoother all the time. Most posters on CD discuss it as if it is not settled law. Wrong.
You don't know what the "back end" of a Website is?
How does the insurance company receive your personal information? That is what the back end is all about. Without that, the process cannot begin.
And funnily enough, when I purchased insurance through the website back in December, the personal information went to the insurance company, the insurance company sent me a premium notice, I paid the insurance company, and I received my insurance cards and policy. Process complete.
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