Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
I don't really understand the obsession with light rail... as someone who's independent and wants to travel on his own terms and what time he wants, I wouldn't want to be dictated by the schedule the rail has, and then having to rent a car at the destination.
HUH????? I don't get this freedom kick that the anti-transit crowd seems to be bent on. People don't like to spend more time in their cars than they have to, it's confining, it's tiring, it's about as un-free as you can get! People want to freedom to be able to jump on transit and just go where they need to without being stuck in traffic or hoping the jerk two lanes over driving with his knees while eating and playing words with friends doesn't drift into your lane.
Do me a favor, find your fifth grade math teacher and give him/her a good hard slap. Then give them one for me.
This is how you compare two sets of data accurately, for example when we are comparing death by firearms in the US with a much larger population than many smaller nations you are using the same method. If you are going to argue this is an inaccurate way to compare transportation deaths then we can throw out the comparisons of gun deaths too.
You can't have it both ways and only accept figures that fit your agenda.
This is how you compare two sets of data accurately, for example when we are comparing death by firearms in the US with a much larger population than many smaller nations you are using the same method. If you are going to argue this is an inaccurate way to compare transportation deaths then we can throw out the comparisons of gun deaths too.
You can't have it both ways and only accept figures that fit your agenda.
Oh I am well aware how percentages work, I also understand this is a car dependent country where there are more cars on the road than there are pennies in this country and light rail only makes up a fraction of the commuting in this country.
I am also aware that people who ride trains are more safe than those that drive cars because train fatalities typically happen to those outside of a train.
So would you call this a light rail accident or a car accident? And guess who is at fault for this accident.
HUH????? I don't get this freedom kick that the anti-transit crowd seems to be bent on. People don't like to spend more time in their cars than they have to, it's confining, it's tiring, it's about as un-free as you can get! People want to freedom to be able to jump on transit and just go where they need to without being stuck in traffic or hoping the jerk two lanes over driving with his knees while eating and playing words with friends doesn't drift into your lane.
When you figure out how to put financially self-supporting mass transit, whether it be bus or rail, in places like Montana, you be sure to get your tender butt out here and set it up. You will be a millionaire in short order!
We do not have, and probably never will have, mass transit of any kind. Oh, sure, in town they have local bus service, but when we lived in town my wife would have had to leave for work an hour early, and would get home one and a half hours after her shift ended, making for a portal to portal work day of fourteen and a half to fifteen hours! IF the busses even ran in the winter after a blizzard.
Sorry, MatCW, but that is NOT acceptable.
Now that we live five miles from the City Limits, there is NO mass transit at all available! NONE! I don't know what "people" you are talking about, but none of them live any where near here. We all know that mass transit is useless for grocery shopping. Yeah, sure, I can see making the monthly trip to Costco on a bus, then spending $250 and hauling all that home on another bus!
Try it, see how well it works for you. I couldn't even make it work when we lived in town! I never did figure out how to get all those bags/boxes from the bus stop to our home in one trip!
Maybe the "people" you are talking about describe you and your friends, but it certainly does NOT describe anybody I know!
" People don't like to spend more time in their cars than they have to, it's confining, it's tiring, it's about as un-free as you can get! People want to freedom to be able to jump on transit and just go where they need to without being stuck in traffic..."
That is quite possibly the dumbest statement I have ever seen on C-D.c!
These numbers are for trains colliding with things rather than people being killed commuting by train. Basically my video I posted of the idiot endangering her children by crossing the tracks when she shouldn't have is where those fatalities come from.
Thus, it is more dangerous to be in a car than a train.
These numbers are for trains colliding with things rather than people being killed commuting by train. Basically my video I posted of the idiot endangering her children by crossing the tracks when she shouldn't have is where those fatalities come from.
Thus, it is more dangerous to be in a car than a train.
And yet, when a mother crosses a busy road with her kids, it's not her fault at all, correct? //www.city-data.com/forum/urban...ches-snow.html
(Starting at post #27 and continuing intermittently for a good while)
True. The vast majority of rail deaths are among non-passengers. As per the figures I cited above, rail is deathly dangerous for people who want to kill themselves, who (at least between 2003 and 2008) accounted for nearly one-half of rail-related fatalities.
overheard on the LIRR: can't they pick a less inconvenient way to kill themselves?
It's sad, but they did make a nuisance for lots of other people. And the conductor gets to watch the train hit someone that he/she can't do much about.
" People don't like to spend more time in their cars than they have to, it's confining, it's tiring, it's about as un-free as you can get! People want to freedom to be able to jump on transit and just go where they need to without being stuck in traffic..."
That is quite possibly the dumbest statement I have ever seen on C-D.c!
Different places have different situations. You'd feel very differently about driving if you lived in/near a large city. I'm sure the guy you quoted wouldn't advocate for a subway line through Montana.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.