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But the voter fraud is statistically insignificant. So your point is???
My point is and was enough with crying for the state to come in and pick a side. On any of these issues.
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And really, how many are fleeing blue states because of politics? Lots leave when they retire. Lower cost of living in some cases for them, much better weather. Some may be transferred.
Neither one of us have data on this to say definitively one way or the other. I personally believe that a lot of people are indeed leaving Blue states on ideological reasons, as I have given leaving my Blue state a lot of thought in the last few years, and have interacted with many who have either left or plan to leave for political/ideological reasons. If you're looking for a forum "gotcha! you can't prove it!" talk point over this, I can't dispute that I have no real data other than personal experience and observation to back up what I said.
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Read some of the state forums. Many people leave their home states, go to places like Charleston, Atlanta. Nashville, etc thinking they can get a job there. Most of the local response is - are you nuts? There are no jobs here, times are tough. If you have very specialized skills, maybe. Or a lot of luck, possibly. So a lot of the job seekers give up, pack up, leave.
Sure, I have read the forums and I am aware of the job difficulties encountered in just about all areas of America except for the few "chosen" places (like near where I live for example). It does not change the fact that a lot of people living in oppressive nanny Blue states want out in order to experience some of the personal freedoms and liberty that Red stater's are often privy to.
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More liberty? Sorry, you'll have to define that. Nannyism as well.
More liberty would include firearms rights and lower taxes, nannyism would include unneeded and unwanted government intrusions into the lives of the citizenry.
its ok they will crash the national economy, triggering a economical collapse and or civil war.. We dont have to fight them, they will slit their own throats...
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Oh... my God.
What? You will run out of others peoples money eventually, and at some point printer money out of thin air will make the dollar worthless.
With the GDP the Blue States produce, they would be just fine without the leeches in the Red States.
Why not let us go then?
Furthermore if you think quantitative easing and printing money out of thin air is a good idea, and does lead to very horrific outcomes, I feel sorry....Not for you and other leftist but by the hard working, honest people who will be harmed by the events it will cause..
Furthermore if you think quantitative easing and printing money out of thin air is a good idea, and does lead to very horrific outcomes, I feel sorry....Not for you and other leftist but by the hard working, honest people who will be harmed by the events it will cause..
We already print money out of thin air. Money has no intrinsic value, it's not based on any kind of precious metal, it's fiat currency. There's no reason that inflation necessarily must follow the printing of more money provided a government take steps to prevent inflation from occurring, which is not as out of reach as you seem to be suggesting, in fact it's rather easy, especially for a country like the United States.
Sorry, but you do not get to take voting rights away from citizens because you disagree with their politics. Americans are free to move wherever they wish in the country, and they take their right to vote with them.
Amen. It is hardly a concidence that only one ideology finds voter suppression of any kind appealing.
Furthermore if you think quantitative easing and printing money out of thin air is a good idea, and does lead to very horrific outcomes, I feel sorry....Not for you and other leftist but by the hard working, honest people who will be harmed by the events it will cause..
Because that defeats the purpose of being the UNITED STATES of America.
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