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What do you think they meant by "... to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of natures God entitle them ..." ? Do you not think that they were referring to the God of the universe? The God of the Holy Scriptures? As believers, they would have understood that there is no other God. "Before me no God was formed, nor will there be one after me." (Isaiah 43:10)
What other religions were they "well aware of" which they were concerned about protecting? Do you think they were concerned with Buddhism? Do you think they were concerned about those who worshiped pagan idols?
There was only one God they recognized, and that is the God of the Scriptures. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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Originally Posted by Weichert
The US government was not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
Well, if there no connection to the Christian religion, why does the "In God We Trust" appear in all kinds of official documents?
Well, if there no connection to the Christian religion, why does the "In God We Trust" appear in all kinds of official documents?
I don't care if the pope himself or Jesus came down from heaven and founded this country. We've moved beyond that point now.
Let me ask you this. This country was founded with slavery and women have little to no rights. How come none of you conservatives ever argue that because the almighty founding fathers founded this country with slavery and subjugation of women that we should revert back to that state?
I'm constantly puzzled why conservatives never understand this very simple concept. If you get to oppress other religious sects because you're the majority, then what's to prevent others from oppressing you once you're no longer the majority? The only way to let everyone worship or not worship based on whatever they choose to is for the government to stay the hell out of religion. This means the only way everyone can enjoy religious freedom is for the government to be secular. Keep your bible off my wall and I'll keep my atheistic satanist human sacrifice off your family.
Do you live in Alabama? How is it your business? Point being that's why we have 50 states and that's why Alabama isn't the same as NY. People vote for their elected officials or they vote for the people that do the appointing. If the minority doesn't like it, they can move to another state that suits them.
There are plenty of comments relative to politics at the state level, there is no residency requirement and we have our own issues in NY. We also elect judges but many are screened through bipartisan panels, not a perfect system but it helps. This was his second time around, he already had issues back in 2003. I Would hope that even the majority party would be running away from this judge. Maybe the judge should move to another state, I don't see that as a solution.
look, i live in alabama, roy moore is a smart man, but you got to remember, this is the bible belt, its not like rest of the planet. alabamian are not dumb people, they are very smart. They just take religion a little on the strong side. I have no problem with roy moore, he been like this all his life.
The founders of the constitution used the general term creator rather than specific references for a very good reason, they were well aware of other religions and understood that the world would change over time. They wanted to avoid religious references in government but Moore seems to think he knows better, the last person we need making these statements is a judge. He should keep his views to himself he is there to interpret the law not make decisions based on his religious views, I doubt if others would be comfortable appearing before him.
For 230 years it was and has always been very much constitutional, with church held in capitol buildings and state offices regularly, then overnight it is all the sudden unconstitutional.
We have the freedom of religion. Not the freedom from religion.
For 230 years it was and has always been very much constitutional, with church held in capitol buildings and state offices regularly, then overnight it is all the sudden unconstitutional.
We have the freedom of religion. Not the freedom from religion.
It really hasn't that's just an interpretation in some of the right wing religious states, not sure what they hope to accomplish through these symbolic gestures other than to irritate other religions. I'm not sure where else you can see a monument of the 10 commandments. Some local governments do allow temporary religious symbols at the local level for all religions.
Do you think it's healthy to start promoting one religion in government offices, would you also welcome a Buddhist monument.
We have a Democrat Party, the supporters of which regularly and relentlessly make bigoted comments about Jews, and Christians (seen often on this Forum). Reactionary (to use your word) when one is found to be 'out of step' with it's view on certain issues, as exemplified by the treatment of Brendan Eich because of his donation in support of Prop 8, resulting in his firing from Mozilla, a company he co-founded.
These "Progressives" have set themselves up as judge, jury, and executioner on matters of what is acceptable behavior and thought, hence they have become the "neo-Puritans," while claiming to be "non-judgmental." Example: Their quick condemnation of a private statement made by Donald Sterling, and smearing his name (though for some 35 years his views had been ignored — perhaps his donations to liberal causes had been waning in recent years). Paula Deen is another victim of their intolerance, but they had to go back many years and manipulate the 'evidence' to make sure they destroyed her completely.
Whether Deen and Sterling were treated fairly or not can be argued; but your thesis is silly. Not all of us Democrats use catchphrases like "non-judgmental" as synonyms for goodness. I judge that things like racism are bad, and I am proud to do so. I don't denounce racists, homophobes, Biblical buffoons, jingoists et al. because they are judgmental, but because they are stupid!
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