Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 05-27-2014, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,519,997 times
Reputation: 27720

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
Maybe psychologists and therapists can decide who has the violent tendency, and put their patients' names in the national data base. This will make it at least a little bit harder for the severely mentally ill to obtain firearms legally.
Don't you think we have enough national databases in use ?
Nobody knows they are in them til they get stopped and can't remove their names ever.
One keystroke by some GED office worker and you're branded for life.

 
Old 05-27-2014, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
25,386 posts, read 35,554,254 times
Reputation: 14692
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
1. Virginia Tech shooter 23-year-old student Seung-Hui Cho, - Court-ordered psychiatric assessment, severe mental ill

2.Sandy Hook Elementary School Adam Lanze - suffered from mentally ill

3.In Killeen, Texas, 35-year-old George Hennard - had a history of mental illness

4.In San Ysidro, California, 41-year-old James Huberty - had called a mental health center

5.University of Texas. Charles Joseph Whitman - Suffering from mental illness and acute fits of anger

6.Edmond, Oklahoma part-time mail carrier, Patrick Henry Sherrill, His father, Sherrill whispered, was mentally ill.

7.Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan kills 13 people and injures 32 at Fort Hood, Texas, - had mental health issues

8.In Binghamton, New York, Jiverly Wong - mentally ill immigrant

9.Columbine High School - Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold - being recognized as mentally ill

10.In Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, 40-year-old George Banks - is evaluated at a Harrisburg-area hospital for mental-health issues

11. Aaron Alexis - shooter from the Navy Yard - Aaron Alexis's mental illness went untreated

12. James E. Holmes - Batman film shooter - suffered from mental illness

13. In Atlanta, Georgia, 44-year-old Mark Barton - been placed on disability leave from his job due to mental problems.

25 Deadliest Mass Shootings in U.S. History Fast Facts - CNN.com

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

WOW, I was reading the article 25 Deadliest Mass Shootings in U.S. last night and did a research on all these shooters. I found out almost all of them suffered from untreated mental illnesses.

I wonder why do some people always blame the guns after a mass shooting? Mental illness is often not to blame in mass shooting? Why?
Not to mention that the worst mass killings aren't committed by guns. Explosives and fire are far more lethal.

If we take away guns, they'll just find another way. It's not about guns. It's about the mentally ill.
 
Old 05-27-2014, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
39,231 posts, read 27,623,465 times
Reputation: 16073

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU8zliE11qc

This is an interesting discussion. Listen to these people talk, still no solution.

One person said, "data base is already there, let's start using them." Sounds reasonable to me.
 
Old 05-27-2014, 04:05 PM
 
13,305 posts, read 7,875,111 times
Reputation: 2144
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
1. Virginia Tech shooter 23-year-old student Seung-Hui Cho, - Court-ordered psychiatric assessment, severe mental ill

2.Sandy Hook Elementary School Adam Lanze - suffered from mentally ill

3.In Killeen, Texas, 35-year-old George Hennard - had a history of mental illness

4.In San Ysidro, California, 41-year-old James Huberty - had called a mental health center

5.University of Texas. Charles Joseph Whitman - Suffering from mental illness and acute fits of anger

6.Edmond, Oklahoma part-time mail carrier, Patrick Henry Sherrill, His father, Sherrill whispered, was mentally ill.

7.Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan kills 13 people and injures 32 at Fort Hood, Texas, - had mental health issues

8.In Binghamton, New York, Jiverly Wong - mentally ill immigrant

9.Columbine High School - Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold - being recognized as mentally ill

10.In Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, 40-year-old George Banks - is evaluated at a Harrisburg-area hospital for mental-health issues

11. Aaron Alexis - shooter from the Navy Yard - Aaron Alexis's mental illness went untreated

12. James E. Holmes - Batman film shooter - suffered from mental illness

13. In Atlanta, Georgia, 44-year-old Mark Barton - been placed on disability leave from his job due to mental problems.

25 Deadliest Mass Shootings in U.S. History Fast Facts - CNN.com

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

WOW, I was reading the article 25 Deadliest Mass Shootings in U.S. last night and did a research on all these shooters. I found out almost all of them suffered from untreated mental illnesses.

I wonder why do some people always blame the guns after a mass shooting? Mental illness is often not to blame in mass shooting? Why?
You're just trying to indict the pharmaceutical industry.
 
Old 05-27-2014, 04:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
10,581 posts, read 9,788,452 times
Reputation: 4174
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
Maybe psychologists and therapists can decide who has the violent tendency, and put their patients' names in the national data base.
We (American society) have a hard time deciding who murdered somebody, or even if it WAS a murder, even AFTER the crime has been committed, the body is there bleeding on the sidewalk, and smoke is coming out of the barrel of the gun in the other guy's hand.

And now people want us to decide who WILL commit a crime.... long before any crime is even committed?

In our grief over the deaths of those innocent people in Santa Barbara, we too easily delude ourselves into thinking we can "solve the problem" of predicting who will kill before he does it. We can't even figure out what happened at a crime scene AFTER it happened.

Grief and (mistaken) reactions after such a horrendous crime, are understandable. But that doesn't make them any more right, or the "solutions" any more practicable or just.
 
Old 05-27-2014, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
15,080 posts, read 14,331,642 times
Reputation: 9789
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
Maybe psychologists and therapists can decide who has the violent tendency, and put their patients' names in the national data base. This will make it at least a little bit harder for the severely mentally ill to obtain firearms legally.
Everyone has violent tendiencies under the right conditions.
 
Old 05-27-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
13,621 posts, read 12,736,880 times
Reputation: 20050
revenge of the nerds!! yep watch out for the skinny little runt that gets no tang..
 
Old 05-27-2014, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
39,231 posts, read 27,623,465 times
Reputation: 16073
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivorytickler View Post
Not to mention that the worst mass killings aren't committed by guns. Explosives and fire are far more lethal.

If we take away guns, they'll just find another way. It's not about guns. It's about the mentally ill.
The reason I like this video is because one person said, "we know we cannot blame the law enforcement, guns, or mental health care facilities, but we need to start do something."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU8zliE11qc

Wish there is something can be done.
 
Old 05-27-2014, 04:10 PM
 
13,305 posts, read 7,875,111 times
Reputation: 2144
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivorytickler View Post
It's not about guns. It's about the mentally ill.
Some say that 2nd Amenders are mentally ill.

I realize that that is only somesay and wouldn't be admissible in a court of law.
 
Old 05-27-2014, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
57,314 posts, read 26,236,916 times
Reputation: 15653
Quote:
Originally Posted by e30is View Post
Under the states refusal to do so. I'm aware Virginia is in it and has been since 07 after the VA tech shootings, and we aren't known to be high in crime as a state compared to Maryland, which has one of the strictest gun laws in the country.
Yes many states are not addressing the issue so where are the NRA lawyers and lobbyists, this is an important gun safety issue.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:32 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top