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Old 06-06-2014, 07:33 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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But I am also wondering, what was their real mission at that Afghan post. I mean if they weren't looking for this soldier what exactly were they suppose to be doing out there in the middle of nowhere?

That is why I think it was a waste to send our military there in the first place.
Oh, I completely agree!
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Old 06-06-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default The Release of Bowe Bergdahl

The hateful response from so many in this thread to Sgt Bergdahl's release is coming largely from folks who like to portray themselves as "American patriots."

I'd like to remind them that bringing home our captive servicemen is a tradition as old as our nation and in no way a new development. Also, this exchange of prisoners has been known and widely published for months prior to the actual exchange and had bipartisan support. Until the president actually OK'd it.

Perhaps Bergdahl is derelict in his duties. If so, he should be held to account. But at this point, we've heard nothing but unsubstantiated allegations. This is still America and an accused remains innocent until proven guilty. We should not be so quick to judge.
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Old 06-06-2014, 07:54 AM
 
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The hateful response from so many in this thread to Sgt Bergdahl's release is coming largely from folks who like to portray themselves as "American patriots."
No, the charges of desertion are actually coming from the troops who served with Bergdahl.
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Old 06-06-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Vegas
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The hateful response from so many in this thread to Sgt Bergdahl's release is coming largely from folks who like to portray themselves as "American patriots."

I'd like to remind them that bringing home our captive servicemen is a tradition as old as our nation and in no way a new development. Also, this exchange of prisoners has been known and widely published for months prior to the actual exchange and had bipartisan support. Until the president actually OK'd it.

Perhaps Bergdahl is derelict in his duties. If so, he should be held to account. But at this point, we've heard nothing but unsubstantiated allegations. This is still America and an accused remains innocent until proven guilty. We should not be so quick to judge.
Yes, we should never leave any of our soldiers behind.

That has little to do with the facts of his walking away from his place of duty in a war zone. Nor the many other allegations coming out about his actions while in captivity.

I am simply worried that, for political reasons, DOD will try to bury this so as to not embarrass our Flunky-in-Chief [yes, I have no respect for the current Commander-in-Chief].
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Old 06-06-2014, 07:58 AM
 
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I am simply worried that, for political reasons, DOD will try to bury this so as to not embarrass our Flunky-in-Chief [yes, I have no respect for the current Commander-in-Chief].
As am I. That is nothing but a losing proposition for our troops. Many of them seem to realize that, as well. That's why this could be the tipping point for those who serve in the military.

Awakened a sleeping giant? Perhaps...
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I am simply worried that, for political reasons, DOD will try to bury this so as to not embarrass our Flunky-in-Chief [yes, I have no respect for the current Commander-in-Chief].
Never fear. For the rest of Obama's term, every least data point and every possible inference that can be drawn from that data point will be exhaustively hashed and rehashed, and then rehashed some more.

There may or may not be any real light shed, but it will surely not be buried.
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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No, the charges of desertion are actually coming from the troops who served with Bergdahl.
No, those are accusations.

It will be up to the chain of command to press charges if their investigation warrants it.
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:05 AM
 
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I just gave the example of Vietnam where the "tradition" of bringing our POW's home went amiss.
So I wish folks would cut the crap about this POW representing all this government
does to bring them back e.g. no soldier left behind - when in reality it is not true, but a fairy tell
told to those who want to believe it.
Which is precisely one of the main reasons why getting Bergdahl back is so important. And worth it. *No one* wants to go through anything like the Vietnam POW/MIA controversy again. Call it "lesson learned."
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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As am I. That is nothing but a losing proposition for our troops. Many of them seem to realize that, as well. That's why this could be the tipping point for those who serve in the military.

Awakened a sleeping giant? Perhaps...
197 high ranking commanders and officers have been fired, suspended, reassigned and forced into retirement over the past 5 years.

I'm sure they already know.
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Old 06-06-2014, 08:08 AM
 
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No, those are accusations.
No, it's a determination made by the Pentagon. Despite knowing exactly where he was, they refused to risk troops to retrieve Bergdahl because he was considered to be a deserter.
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A Pentagon investigation concluded in 2010 that the evidence was “incontrovertible” that he [Bergdahl] walked away from his unit, said a former Pentagon official who has read it.
Questions loom over Bergdahl-Taliban swap - The Washington Post
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