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Old 06-30-2014, 08:58 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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Seems like an ounce of prevention would be wiser than unwanted children becoming a burden to society later. We have the highest teen pregnancy rate of any civilized country, removing birth control doesn't seem like a great idea.

They want to eliminate birth control and they also wish to prevent abortions, seems that those two solutions are in direct conflict.
Perhaps you should try to become informed about the issue before you spout off your nonsense. Hobby Lobby was and is willing to pay for 16 of the 20 forms of birth control that are mandated by HHS. The 4 they are not willing to pay for work by preventing the embryo from being implanted in the uterus, which in their view is no different than abortion.

So tell us again how this is "wanting to eliminate birth control?"

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Old 06-30-2014, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It's still a win for companies which didn't even have that option before.

No one is denying birth control. Women will just have to pay for it themselves.
Or let the government pay for their "free" birth control.

Before Obamacare women had to pay it themselves.

So this is not some new financial burden on women.
Only a few companies can take advantage of this bad ruling. But hey, as long as women can be denied healthcare needs, why should people care.

Good that only a limited number of companies can abuse this ruling.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Well no. Mr Obama is not having a very good year, is he? Amazing what happens once it is proven the emperor has no clothes.

Also, lost the 'mandatory' union dues ruling.


Seems the Supremes are correcting Obama's and fascist Dems' faults!
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:59 AM
 
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Hallelujah and amen, this mom can still shop at HL!
And by the same token, I have implored my wife to avoid the place since this lawsuit was filed. She largely agrees with me.
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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??? All companies that don't provide insurance to employes deny women birth control. Obamacare denies men birth control (condoms), where's the outrage?
You know you can get condoms for free if you wanted to, right?
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:59 AM
 
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Unless they had insurance that covered it.

Also, if the government pays for it, then you pay for it.

Also, too, it really shouldn't be my employer's business what prescription medication I need. But that horse is so dead, so we shant beat it.
People are free to make choices. Wouldn't it be nice if people paid for those choices.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:00 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The employees that use contraception lose, they will now pay directly.
Pay to play. No one rides for free.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Only a few companies can take advantage of this bad ruling. But hey, as long as women can be denied healthcare needs, why should people care.

Good that only a limited number of companies can abuse this ruling.
No one is being denied health care.

These women can just pay for their birth control with their own money..just like they did before Obamacare got signed.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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So, according to Hobby Lobby preventing unwanted children from being conceived is immoral but buying cheap trinkets made in a country with a laundry list of human rights violations for peanuts and selling them at highly inflated prices is? Given his distaste for those lusting after wealth I'm sure Jesus would be proud.
Hobby Lobby covers birth control, they objected to covering abortifacients.
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Old 06-30-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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??? With what money will the federal government make contraception available, and when did Congress appropriate said funds?
We could use the money Obama wants to send to Syria.
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