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Then I guess there is no point in talking about the bills which are only about border security.
All righty then.
I guess there's no point in discussing the fact that the Executive Branch and the DoJ have been selectively enforcing, ignoring and violating existing duly written and passed laws without a care in the world?
And you continue to ignore the fact that every single time the Republicans give, expecting something in return from the Dems, the latter never, ever happens.
How many times must the Republicans be swindled by the exact same type of con job before they are expected to wise up and not believe the swindlers?
No, but for some reason Congress seems to prefer keeping the problem. I guess they figure it will buy them more votes than fixing it.
Think you summed it up nicely.
It has not mattered who sat the oval or held the majority, nothing changes when nothing changes. Too many make too much money off the backs of illegal immigrants to effect change.
You will not see either party nominate anyone who promises to round up the tens of millions of illegals and deport them. Both will however gush about sealing the borders, implying growing federal government and ignore those who employ undocumented workers. Nothing changes when nothing changes.
WASHINGTON -- Immigration reform has flatlined in Congress but Florida voters overwhelmingly support changes and reject the Republican contention that a lack of enforcement of current law is reason not to act, a new poll released Wednesday shows.
Sixty-seven percent of voters said they support a plan that secures the borders, mandates employee verification, expands work visas and provides a path to citizenship for young immigrants brought to the United States illegally by their parents while providing other undocumented residents legal status, according to the poll for the pro-reform Partnership for a New American Economy.
Seventy-six percent dismissed the GOP argument about a lack of enforcement being reason not to move on immigration reform. Nearly as many, 71 percent, said they would rather vote for a presidential candidate from a political party that supports immigration reform.
The results were released as part of a “national day of action” by immigration reform groups. The Florida survey found 76 percent of voters think it is very important or somewhat important for Congress to act this year.
Also why do we need to provide a new path to citizenship while there has been one for decades: go home and apply for legal residency and citizenship like every other legal immigrant!
Also why do we need to provide a new path to citizenship while there has been one for decades: go home and apply for legal residency and citizenship like every other legal immigrant!
No, it is not 'just amnesty'. It contains many improvements, including border security. The 13 process to obtain citizenship is among many items on the bill, but if you must know, an offer was made to GOP to discuss a reform which did not include the path to citizenship.
Let's see here, we don't enforce the immigration laws now, and you think we will in the future?
ROFLMAO.
This is all about power and votes, and very few politicians give a rats backside how bad it hurts the country.
BTW, what does immigration reform mean? Does it mean that you secure the border? Does it mean that you allow in more immigrants? Does it mean that you provide amnesty for illegals? You might as well survey people asking if they want more jobs. They'll surely say yes. But what if your idea of more jobs means that you feel people should have their pay cut in half so business can hire more people?
The question should be "Should the border be secured?"
The Partnership for a New American Economy, the Business Roundtable and the National Association of Manufacturers are releasing a new poll today on immigration reform. A national poll of 1000 likely voters plus polls in 26 states of 500-855 likely voters conducted by a GOP firm, Harper Polling, found high support even among Republicans for immigration reform. The findings, provided to Right Turn, suggest the anti-immigration forces are loud but in the distinct minority. (States surveyed were Arkansas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Mississippi, Minnesota, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin.)
The survey of likely voters finds, for example, that the vast majority of voters believe the system is in need of fixing. 86% of Republicans believe Congress should take action
WASHINGTON -- Immigration reform has flatlined in Congress but Florida voters overwhelmingly support changes and reject the Republican contention that a lack of enforcement of current law is reason not to act, a new poll released Wednesday shows.
Sixty-seven percent of voters said they support a plan that secures the borders, mandates employee verification, expands work visas and provides a path to citizenship for young immigrants brought to the United States illegally by their parents while providing other undocumented residents legal status, according to the poll for the pro-reform Partnership for a New American Economy.
In other words, they support the federal government enforcing existing immigration laws.
If the border were secure, and we aggressively enforced our laws for people overstaying their visas, then we would not have all these illegal aliens, and we'd stop parents from dragging their children across the border.
We already have a path for citizenship for foreigners, it's called applying for citizenship.
And you can blame the lack of immigration reform on the big bad republicans, but this administration has signaled to countries that their citizens are welcome. Democrats have several points on which they will not back down and thus the reason the bipartisan bill did not pass: no borders closed for several years until after amnesty, liberal immigration reform with full citizenship for all, to mention a few of the points.
Out of your own mouth comes the problem: this administration is rewarding immigrants for coming over the border--last count nearly 300K and more are coming, with no plans to stop them. Surely you are not learning for the first time today that the sudden influx of a massive amount of immigrants was brought about by this administration. There's no way our agencies could keep track of where they are going and when and if they will appear at a immigration hearing.
Immigrants will of course vote for the party that grants them full voting rights, liberal benefits, education, full medical attention, driver's licenses, etc., all at the expense of American citizens. They are even wearing Obama shoes as they cross the border. You must be so proud and so happy.
What are Obama shoes?
So long as people continue to choose to see this as a partisan issue, nothing will change. This is no accident.
The Latino and Senior vote won Bush's second term. His promise to continue plugging away at reform and the Dream Act and the unfunded expansion of Medicare got the intended results. Obama did the same to get the Latino vote and healthcare created the perception of getting something for nothing.
Both parties will continue with these strategies in 2016. It will not matter who wins the oval or holds the majority.
In other words, they support the federal government enforcing existing immigration laws.
In other words: The survey of likely voters finds, for example, that the vast majority of voters believe the system is in need of fixing. 86% of Republicans believe Congress should take action
Florida poll shows broad public support for immigration reform
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You obviously misunderstood the question.
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WASHINGTON -- Immigration reform has flatlined in Congress but Florida voters overwhelmingly support changes and reject the Republican contention that a lack of enforcement of current law is reason not to act, a new poll released Wednesday shows.
Sixty-seven percent of voters said they support a plan that secures the borders, mandates employee verification, expands work visas and provides a path to citizenship for young immigrants brought to the United States illegally by their parents while providing other undocumented residents legal status, according to the poll for the pro-reform Partnership for a New American Economy.
Seventy-six percent dismissed the GOP argument about a lack of enforcement being reason not to move on immigration reform. Nearly as many, 71 percent, said they would rather vote for a presidential candidate from a political party that supports immigration reform.
The results were released as part of a “national day of action” by immigration reform groups. The Florida survey found 76 percent of voters think it is very important or somewhat important for Congress to act this year.
Well, here is your original post^^^, I see no question. As I earlier stated, we don't need reform, we need to enforce the laws we have on the books now. If we don't enforce our present laws, what makes you think we'll enforce new laws?
BTW, I do believe Congress should act, they should enforce our present laws.
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Florida poll shows broad public support for immigration reform
