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It certainly is not impossible and it won't cost $40 billion a year to pretend to seal the borders to achieve it.
Hold employers responsible. Fine them $1 million a head plus court costs. Seize their assets for payment.
Amend the Constitution to put some parameters around birth rights.
I have no issue with a defined path to citizenship for those that have lived in the US for a minimum of x years, provided they are self- sustaining and have not been convicted of any crimes.
Sarbanes/Oxley was suppose to hold businesses liable for their financial frauds but it was never enforced.
The problem is people do not trust Obama to uphold any law. The problem is Obama is completely untrustworthy.
Easy enough to fix the bold. Put real teeth into the law and enforce it. Make the employer also shoulder the burden of the cost of deportation. As for the subs make the contractor equally responsible. We do it with other laws and in the construction industry. Build a house and it has problems the contractor owns the repairs. Doesn't matter who his sub was. In this case if sub uses illegals the contractor takes the fall as well.
Where I work we use temp help for unskilled labor. Our temp service has to provide proof of legal stays and do back ground checks on all their employees. It isn't impossible or even challenging.
There are teeth in the law. Business busted for hiring illegals a second time get the death penalty: there business license is revoked. It has NEVER happened here. Never. Business runs the government, government has the responsibility to enforce the law. It's not just Obama who looks the other way. It is everyone from the sheriff to the prosecutor to Congress to the White House.
We don't need more laws. We have the laws. We don't need more border "security". It's there already. The problem is that profit and greed trump laws always, all the time. There has never been meaningful immigration control in the US when money was to be made off of cheap labor.
Also why do we need to provide a new path to citizenship while there has been one for decades: go home and apply for legal residency and citizenship like every other legal immigrant!
Yup. We should secure our borders, expand visas for high-skill immigrants and streamline the path to citizenship for those who go through the proper channels.
We should not give amnesty to people who put their kids on a bus and send them across the border. That's amnesty and the equivalent of letting the shoplifter go AND letting him keep whatever he stole. We're rewarding people for breaking our laws and far too many people are OK with picking and choosing which laws they think people should have to follow.
The majority of Americans want double the H1-B's that are coming here now ?
The majority of Americans want the new W-Visa for unskilled workers and their families ?
The majority of Americans want to pay for lawyers for every illegal apprehended ?
The majority of Americans are for bypassing immigration steps for sponsoring family members to come here ?
Seems to me the majority of Americans have no clue what's in the Senate bill.
The problem is people do not trust Obama to uphold any law. The problem is Obama is completely untrustworthy.
Oh, and you want to give him a blank check to build 1000 miles of fence and hire as many government workers as he wants? Is that really what you want from someone you say cannot be trusted? The Senate bill would authorize the money to finish the fence, and boost border security.
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Obama shoes are shoes with Obama's picture on them. Immigrants crossing the border are wearing these shoes because Obama is letting them in by the hundreds and hundreds of thousands with no plan to stop it and will take care of them.
What you are missing is that at no point in any administration other than this one has something like this mass influx of immigrants occurred. We've granted amnesty, we've passed laws, we've enforced the border, we've brought in immigrant workers, increased visas, aided children. Bush's law which Obama is now exploiting was intended to care for 8,000 children a year.
In a nutshell, the bottom line is that Democrats want open borders for several years, amnesty, liberal immigration reform, all benefits to immigrants, dreamers families to come into the US after a period of time that the dreamer becomes a US citizen. Republicans want the borders secured now, not after another 1 -2 million immigrants have come into the country, limited to no benefits, no families of dreamers given a free pass, no full citizenship to everyone. They will never be able to agree. Republicans are willing to concede some issues, but not securing the border is the deal breaker.
So, the strategy of this administration is to bring in 1 - 2 million immigrants, give them benefits, and let them know that no one other than the Democrats will do this for you.
Do you really believe this type of action is the same as all past unkept campaign promises? Do you really only see this as a partisan issue? Please get in touch with what is going on at the borders.
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What are Obama shoes?
So long as people continue to choose to see this as a partisan issue, nothing will change. This is no accident.
The Latino and Senior vote won Bush's second term. His promise to continue plugging away at reform and the Dream Act and the unfunded expansion of Medicare got the intended results. Obama did the same to get the Latino vote and healthcare created the perception of getting something for nothing.
Both parties will continue with these strategies in 2016. It will not matter who wins the oval or holds the majority.
Reform? We don't need immigration reform. What's with people and "reforming" everything? Reform = amnesty. That's all there is to it. You think this newly arrived wave of illegal aliens was not orchestrated? Yes let's give everyone amnesty! What a crock of sh*t.
Enforce the damn laws! We have laws. Enforce them for God's sake. But no. They won't. They want to fill this country with people who have NO regard for the rule of law and the Constitution. What's the best way to fundamentally change a country? Bring in people from the outside who just don't care about the laws and the people here. You can't get Americans to accept policies and changes? Well, just replace them with the gullible who will see the government as the savior; the government who allowed them to come here and have a "better" life.
In other words: The survey of likely voters finds, for example, that the vast majority of voters believe the system is in need of fixing. 86% of Republicans believe Congress should take action
And I said the reason people have characterized it as "in need of fixing" is because the federal government is not following current laws, not enforcing current laws. If we enforced, funded, and obeyed current laws, most all of these issues of concern that people think need "fixing" would already have been taken care of.
Yup. We should secure our borders, expand visas for high-skill immigrants and streamline the path to citizenship for those who go through the proper channels.
We should not give amnesty to people who put their kids on a bus and send them across the border. That's amnesty and the equivalent of letting the shoplifter go AND letting him keep whatever he stole. We're rewarding people for breaking our laws and far too many people are OK with picking and choosing which laws they think people should have to follow.
We have a stagnant economy, the lowest labor force participation rate in 40 years, highest poverty rate in fifty years and highest deficit spending rate in world history - now is NOT the time to import more unemployed workers, skilled or unskilled.
Until more of our own US citizens are employed, we do not need more job seekers or social welfare recipients from foreign nations pouring in here and burdening the system.
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