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Old 08-06-2014, 10:38 PM
 
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I've classified the GOP as crazy ever since they abandoned the Contract for America.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:27 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Sorry if I left out the "Obama is Hitler" crowd…
He's a horrible president and a moron. Did you hear when he said "Russia doesn't make anything?" I'm not a huge Michael Savage fan, but I enjoyed listening to him yesterday afternoon as he played Beavis and Butthead in the background while Obama was talking about Russia. No wonder this stuff with Ukraine is going on! I wonder how long it will be before the PRC tries to go into Taiwan.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:23 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Oh yeah, talk about cuckoo for cocoa puffs, let's not forget the Republican infatuation with Putin?!!

Explaining The Conservative Love Affair With Vladimir Putin
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Old 08-08-2014, 01:53 AM
 
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Fair enough. But no one is suggesting that Dems don't have their share of nutters. Just that the GOP has so flippin' many these days! Unless you think that 41% seriously believing the POTUS is a "furiner", is 'normal'?!
Oh please.. Obama himself said that if he couldnt get Congress to go along, he'll just do what he needs to do to make things law without them.
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:44 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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And is this really such a preposterous question, when over 40% of Republicans are still "Birthers", and over a third actually believe the POTUS is a muslim? And that's not even counting all the ones who think Obama is an alien lizard, the anti-christ, hell-bent on "turning the U.S. into a 3rd world country", etc.! And if all that doesn't qualify as "insane", then what does?

BTW, here's "Exhibit B", seriously, from none other than former GOP Prez. candidate, Newt Gingrich…
"What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]?" Gingrich asked. "That is the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior."
Question: Where are you getting this figure that 40% of Republicans are "birthers?" I seriously doubt the accuracy of that claim.

As for Obama's religion, one must ask the question: Why does Obama seem to always praise and show favoritism to, as well as honor Muslims, but never Christians?
"In the United States, Eid also reminds us of the many achievements and contributions of Muslim Americans to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy."
Statement by the President on the Occasion of Eid-al-Fitr | The White House

[Would love to know what those "achievements and contributions" are]

"Will Obama address the oppression of Christian in Malaysia? Will Obama address the persecution of Christians as a result of the law that prohibits Christians from using the word allah for god? A word that Christians in Malaysia have used for centuries. Churches have been set ablaze and Christians mercilessly attacked.

Will Obama visit the site of a burned-down church?

Obama’s unquestioning support for and encouragement of Islam’s jihad and sharia only serves to increase the human toll the brutal supremacism demands."
Obama to

Those are but two recent examples. There have been many in the past. But, I have never once heard Obama give praise to, or honor any Christians, Christian holiday, or mention Christian achievements and contributions, even though the history of our Republic is rich in Christian tradition, Christianity being the dominant religion for our entire history, and Christianity having profoundly influenced our founders [Were any of the original thirteen colonies dominated by any religion other than Christianity?].

Obama attended a church for twenty years that was anything but Christian (Wright preached "Black Liberation Theology").

Obama attended a private Muslim school in Kenya, and he once "slipped" in an interview with George Stephanopoulos, mentioning his "Muslim faith," and did not even realize it until Stephanopoulos said, "You mean your Christian faith."

Is it any wonder, then, that many believe Obama to be at least "more Muslim" than he is Christian, if he is not Muslim? I think, "Is Obama a Muslim?," is a fair question, especially in light of his seemingly bottomless deference to Islam.

Finally, Newt's question and comment is also perfectly valid if you know anything about Obama's anti-colonialism (I have not read "Dreams From My Father," but I have read reviews and excerpts which discuss this). I think it's fair to say that Obama hates 'whites," and this fact is not hidden.

Apparently, your knowledge of Obama is limited to his Presidency, and you know little or nothing about his past. Whatever you hear, you reject as simply Republican "racism," and "hatred" of "the black man in office."
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:46 AM
 
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It's soooo crazy these days to allow people to keep more of their own money and stop 3rd world trash from entering the country.
Yup. Call me crazy.
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Old 08-08-2014, 03:52 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Sorry if I left out the "Obama is Hitler" crowd…
Well, he certainly is using some of the same techniques as Hitler to gain control of the citizens of this country, isn't he? And, given that he is a Marxist/socialist... I'd say there are similarities. He also hates the Jews. Hmmmmmm
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Old 08-08-2014, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Question: Where are you getting this figure that 40% of Republicans are "birthers?" I seriously doubt the accuracy of that claim.

As for Obama's religion, one must ask the question: Why does Obama seem to always praise and show favoritism to, as well as honor Muslims, but never Christians?
"In the United States, Eid also reminds us of the many achievements and contributions of Muslim Americans to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy."
Statement by the President on the Occasion of Eid-al-Fitr | The White House

[Would love to know what those "achievements and contributions" are]

"Will Obama address the oppression of Christian in Malaysia? Will Obama address the persecution of Christians as a result of the law that prohibits Christians from using the word allah for god? A word that Christians in Malaysia have used for centuries. Churches have been set ablaze and Christians mercilessly attacked.

Will Obama visit the site of a burned-down church?

Obama’s unquestioning support for and encouragement of Islam’s jihad and sharia only serves to increase the human toll the brutal supremacism demands."
Obama to

Those are but two recent examples. There have been many in the past. But, I have never once heard Obama give praise to, or honor any Christians, Christian holiday, or mention Christian achievements and contributions, even though the history of our Republic is rich in Christian tradition, Christianity being the dominant religion for our entire history, and Christianity having profoundly influenced our founders [Were any of the original thirteen colonies dominated by any religion other than Christianity?].

Obama attended a church for twenty years that was anything but Christian (Wright preached "Black Liberation Theology").

Obama attended a private Muslim school in Kenya, and he once "slipped" in an interview with George Stephanopoulos, mentioning his "Muslim faith," and did not even realize it until Stephanopoulos said, "You mean your Christian faith."

Is it any wonder, then, that many believe Obama to be at least "more Muslim" than he is Christian, if he is not Muslim? I think, "Is Obama a Muslim?," is a fair question, especially in light of his seemingly bottomless deference to Islam.

Finally, Newt's question and comment is also perfectly valid if you know anything about Obama's anti-colonialism (I have not read "Dreams From My Father," but I have read reviews and excerpts which discuss this). I think it's fair to say that Obama hates 'whites," and this fact is not hidden.

Apparently, your knowledge of Obama is limited to his Presidency, and you know little or nothing about his past. Whatever you hear, you reject as simply Republican "racism," and "hatred" of "the black man in office."
I guess you only see, read and hear what you want to see, read and hear. If it contradicts your dogma, it doesn't exist.

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama praised Francis during an Easter prayer breakfast at the White House, April 14.

In his remarks, the president said he felt the spirit of the hope of the Resurrection and of following Jesus when he met Pope Francis on Mar. 27 at the Vatican.

"Those of us of the Christian faith, regardless of our denomination, have been touched and moved by Pope Francis," Obama said.

"Some of it is his words — his message of justice and inclusion, especially for the poor and the outcast. He implores us to see the inherent dignity in each human being," Obama said.
Obama praises Pope Francis at Easter breakfast

Perhaps you think the Pope has nothing to do with Christianity.
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Old 08-08-2014, 04:16 AM
 
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Is it finally time that we ask the increasingly obvious question, namely…
Has the G.O.P. Gone Off the Deep End?

Or as Mike Lofgren, a staff member for 16 years on the Republican side of both the House and Senate Budget Committees, writes…
"The Republican Party is becoming less and less like a traditional political party in a representative democracy and becoming more like an apocalyptic cult, or one of the intensely ideological authoritarian parties of 20th century Europe."

And is this really such a preposterous question, when over 40% of Republicans are still "Birthers", and over a third actually believe the POTUS is a muslim? And that's not even counting all the ones who think Obama is an alien lizard, the anti-christ, hell-bent on "turning the U.S. into a 3rd world country", etc.! And if all that doesn't qualify as "insane", then what does?

BTW, here's "Exhibit B", seriously, from none other than former GOP Prez. candidate, Newt Gingrich…
"What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]?" Gingrich asked. "That is the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior."

Obama's Citizenship - July 2014 Rasmussen Poll
When Bush was President and the Republicans controlled neither house of congress, the Democrats said that Bush wrecked the economy. But when Obama was President and the Democrats controlled both houses of congress for 2 years and controlled one of the houses since then, the Democrats said it was the Republicans' fault that the recovery was so slow. Is that sane?

When Republicans wanted birth control to have the same copay as other medication covered by insurance, the Democrats called that a "war on women". Is that sane?

The Obama white house drew up and introduced sequestration. Obama gave a speech saying that he would veto any attempt to get around sequestration. Then, when sequestration went through, the Democrats blamed Republicans for it. Is that sane?

The Republican House drew up 4 separate continuing resolutions funding the government. The Democrat controlled Senate rejected all 4 of them. Then the Democrats said that Republicans shut down the government. Is that sane?

The Democrats rejected all Republican attempts to be involved with healthcare reform and drew up the Affordable Care Act with no Republican input whatsoever. The Democrats then passed the Affordable Care Act using the reconciliation process which denied Republicans the opportunity to debate the law. Then the Democrats said that the Affordable Care Act was a mess because Republicans wouldn't work with them on it. Is that sane?

The Democrats proposed responding to the mass shootings at Sandy Hook and elsewhere with bans on assault weapons and high capacity magazines, even though neither assault weapons nor high capacity magazines have been involved in 99% of mass shootings. Is that sane?

The head of the IRS admitted the conservative groups had been unfairly targeted. Lois Lerner took the 5th rather than answer any questions. The IRS said they would produce all email related to the situation then claimed that all the email had been lost, and gave a date for the loss that was prior to the date where they had agreed to produce that email. Eric Holder's Justice Department investigated the situation but the investigators did not take testimony from alleged victims of the targeting. But the Democrats claim that the IRS situation is a phony scandal and a witch hunt. Is that sane?

Obama gave a speech while he was still a Senator saying that if he was elected President he would not rest until the problems at the VA were resolved. The chairman of the veterans' affairs committee in congress sent reports to Obama about the problems with veterans not receiving timely care. But when the story broke in the mass media, Obama said he was shocked to learn of it on the news and that he had no previous idea that anything like that was going on. Is that sane?

Harry Reid said that it was only proper that the Defense of Marriage Act was losing cases in the Supreme Court because it was clearly unconstitutional. But when DOMA was passed in the first place, Harry Reid himself voted Yes on it. Is that sane?

Maybe when the Democratic leadership stops being flagrantly irrational, then you can complain about the GOP being insane because of what Republican rank-and-file people say. It's absolutely true that there are a lot of crazy extremist Republicans. But given the staggering level of dishonesty and corruption at the very highest levels of the Democrat party, I think that's a bit more of a pressing concern.
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Old 08-08-2014, 04:34 AM
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Location: Florida
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Perhaps you think the Pope has nothing to do with Christianity.
Indeed. After all, in the right-winger's mind, "Christianity" rationalizes their egoistic avarice and callous disregard for the less fortunate, instead of (as Pope Francis points out) condemns those aspects of the right-wing perspective.
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