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Old 08-17-2014, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Well..something tells me it will get worse, with some people clamoring for a murder indictment, and Brown's mom calling for the death penalty, neither of which will be happening.

 
Old 08-17-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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While citizens respond to the police shooting of an unarmed black youth........Police have their own response:

Note: these are police officers, not IDF in Gaza or US soldiers in Afghanistan. This is the police response to protests from citizens. You look at one of these cops sideways and you'll be eating pavement.

Land of the Free......right?

Police Militarization In Ferguson - Business Insider

Welcome to our outrage! Conservatives and libertarians have been squawking about the increasing militarization of federal departments such as DHS and the Bureau of Land Managements for years.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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I'm on the fence as far as the militarization of American law enforcement agencies goes. I understand that revolvers and nightsticks are inadequate in some situations, but I'm disturbed by the increasingly popular use of SWAT teams and heavy equipment in everyday situations. I don't mind that an agency has armored vehicles, demolition charges and SWAT teams, but it seems that they're used more frequently than necessary in order to justify their existence and budgets.

That said, I don't have a problem with the deployment of armored vehicles and heavily armed officers during the riots and looting in Ferguson -- it's exactly the type of situation where such measures are warranted.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Just curious about the ethnicity of all the store owners that had been looted from. Were there any reports about their race?
One of them was named Apu Nahasapeemapetilon, definitely Indian.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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Welcome to our outrage! Conservatives and libertarians have been squawking about the increasing militarization of federal departments such as DHS and the Bureau of Land Managements for years.
Yep, and i have been on that bandwagon with friends and social media, yet nobody cared. One good thing that will come from this, regardless of charges and verdict, will be that Americans have finally seen that local police militarization has gone too far. the days of neighborhood policing are over and in it's place we have a quazi-military style militia, with the power and tools to suppress large gatherings. A very dangerous trend.

In doubt? Ask your self why the Department of Education or HUD needs a SWAT team. Nearly every government agency has their own SWAT team now. Are their times and situations where they could use it, sure. But they don't need their own team. that amounts to tens of thousands of "troops" readily available to be called in to suppress situations the government deems inappropriate.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Welcome to our outrage! Conservatives and libertarians have been squawking about the increasing militarization of federal departments such as DHS and the Bureau of Land Managements for years.
Really? Seems to me conservatives have been cheerleading the wars they start, which, in turn, sends back soldiers who become police officers and use their war time experience right here at home against civilians. And the DHS, a creation of conservatives, then sends these departments surplus equipment from the wars started by conservatives.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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http://www.fergusoncity.com/
Doesn't seem like a warzone.
 
Old 08-17-2014, 01:08 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Any 'militarization' of the cops seems clearly a response to the whole 'let people have whatever weapons they want - it's constitutional'' - argument. When the populace are armed to the teeth, it's pretty clear that the police would keep up with the ante (because of practical safety concerns and the gun-swagger attitude that goes along with that).
 
Old 08-17-2014, 01:13 PM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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The most disturbing thing about this incident is that you basically had Un Armed Americans protesting which is our Constitutional right and basically had a Nazi-Gestapo assault on them by the Ferguson police.

The police force throwing tear gas at Unarmed protesters reminded me of a War Zone in the middle East not a suburban community in the US.
Problem is.....

The tear gas was a response to the rioters that were burning the town.

Not the other way around......
 
Old 08-17-2014, 01:16 PM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Any 'militarization' of the cops seems clearly a response to the whole 'let people have whatever weapons they want - it's constitutional'' - argument. When the populace are armed to the teeth, it's pretty clear that the police would keep up with the ante (because of practical safety concerns and the gun-swagger attitude that goes along with that).
Hmmm.

Then Chicago, D.C., et al don't need their SWAT teams because it's so difficult for a civilian to obtain firearms.
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