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Old 08-19-2014, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Israel isn't the problem in the Middle East. Israel currently controls a historically disputed piece of land in a predominately Muslim area that has changed hands more times throughout history than a cigarette in a middle school bathroom. Israel HAS to have a strong military because it is literally surrounded by people that have vocally stated their intent to wipe them off the Earth. The relative peace that they see with exception to Gaza is through their strength alone. And just as an FYI...The Egyptian government is just as cruel to the citizens of Gaza. Egypt may not be engaged in an active fire-fight but they have them locked in like animals at their southwestern border just as the Israeli's do.

Now, that being said...I agree that it isn't our obligation to fund them...but Israel is well within their rights to take actions that they deem necessary to protect themselves. No other country would ever be expected to take rocketfire without retaliation.
Yep-I meant to add Egypt as well as we are also tied up in treaties with them giving them $1.5 BILLION per year and as you said they are just as inhumane to the people in Gaza. Muslim countries seem to look the other way when it comes to the plight of Gazans as they believe the images of war help their own causes.

But that leaves us with no answers and the least our country can do is stop willingly participating in the ongoing massacre.

Why do some act like Israel having a strong military is dependent on financial assistance received from The US?
Last I checked every single Israeli is required to serve, the Mossad is unmatched and the nuclear stockpile is full.

If our country continues to deteriorate should be continue to give Israel what amounts to $10 Million every single day?
Mind you- this is a country with a population about the size of the Philadelphia metro.

I feel we need to end ALL aid immediately and remain completely neutral. Israel will do what it feels it needs to do and the US won't have to suffer for it.

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Old 08-19-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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Yep-I meant to add Egypt as well as we are also tied up in treaties with them and as you said they are just as inhumane to the people in Gaza. I also understand that other Muslim countries look the other way when it comes to the plight of Gazans as they believe the images of war help their own causes.

But that leaves us with no answers and the least our country can do is stop willingly participating in the ongoing massacre.

Why do some act like Israel having a strong military is dependent on financial assistance received from The US?
Last I checked every single Israeli is required to serve, the Mossad is unmatched and the nuclear stockpile is full.

If our country continues to deteriorate should be continue to give Israel what amounts to $10 Million every single day?
Mind you- this is a country with a population about the size of the Philadelphia metro.
Your country deteriorating has nothing whatsoever to do with Israel but your own post may give you a clue! You probably had nothing whatsoever to say when it was Israel on the receiving end of the terrorist attacks for at least the last 4 decades.

Forgetting who your allies are and aiding your enemies; the great American pastime.
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:11 PM
 
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The tolerated, anti-Semitic hatred on this board is scary, dangerous, and sad. A bunch of little Hitlers enthusiastically cheering for a new Holocaust. The op is an absolute disgrace.
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:15 PM
 
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Picketers at California port keep Israeli ship from unloading | World news | theguardian.com






Israeli ship remains at sea as thousands of protesters gather in Oakland | World news | theguardian.com


Great work protesters! As a proud American I refuse to have anything to do with Israeli war crimes-we should only be responsible for the atrocious actions of our own US Government-not those of a backwards theocracy in the middle of the most violent region on Earth. As Americans we are helping Israel murder innocent women and children in Gaza by giving them $3 BILLION every single year-most of which is used to juice the military-industrial complex and cause more murder and terror in a viscious cycle.

End all aid to the welfare state of Israel and end all entanglements in the Middle East.

Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies we do not need and The Middle East will never see peace until it's people control their own destiny without interference from The US or England.
Bay area supports Islamic Terrorist so I'm not surprised.
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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GO FIGURE, it's a bunch of NCali progressive socialists protesting!


Yes ...GREAT JOB! They just took out their misguided hatred of Israel on a bunch of mom and pop importers and domestic businesses.

Stop welfare to Israel?

The ship was BRINGING TAXABLE MATERIALS IN, not going out.
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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If I lived in Oakland I'd be mad at the world too.
Are you aware that according to the radio news this morning, about 1/4 of those arrested in Ferguson MO yesterday had flown in from Oakland to participate in the looting?
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:27 PM
 
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Picketers at California port keep Israeli ship from unloading | World news | theguardian.com






Israeli ship remains at sea as thousands of protesters gather in Oakland | World news | theguardian.com


Great work protesters! As a proud American I refuse to have anything to do with Israeli war crimes-we should only be responsible for the atrocious actions of our own US Government-not those of a backwards theocracy in the middle of the most violent region on Earth. As Americans we are helping Israel murder innocent women and children in Gaza by giving them $3 BILLION every single year-most of which is used to juice the military-industrial complex and cause more murder and terror in a viscious cycle.

End all aid to the welfare state of Israel and end all entanglements in the Middle East.

Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies we do not need and The Middle East will never see peace until it's people control their own destiny without interference from The US or England.
What Israeli war crimes?
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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GO FIGURE, it's a bunch of NCali progressive socialists protesting!


Yes ...GREAT JOB! They just took out their misguided hatred of Israel on a bunch of mom and pop importers and domestic businesses.

Stop welfare to Israel?

The ship was BRINGING TAXABLE MATERIALS IN, not going out.
Whoever said liberals were smart.
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:30 PM
 
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Are you aware that according to the radio news this morning, about 1/4 of those arrested in Ferguson MO yesterday had flown in from Oakland to participate in the looting?
who paid for that? that's what I'd like to know.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:45 PM
 
Location: California
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Are you aware that according to the radio news this morning, about 1/4 of those arrested in Ferguson MO yesterday had flown in from Oakland to participate in the looting?
I read that 1/4 were from outside Ferguson MO, from as far away as NY and SF:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/in-fe...ted-1408491536

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About one-quarter of those arrested over that time are from outside the area, from as far away as New York and San Francisco, county records showed.
Is that what you heard and does that translate into "1/4 were flown in from Oakland" or is there another article? Which radio news show?
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