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Old 08-21-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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Without knowing any facts you jumped to the conclusion that it must be due to discrimination and not lack of Black applicants.
I didn't say it was intentional discrimination. I said they have clearly not put any priority on hiring black officers or they would have more of them.

If they don't have enough black applicants and they need them as they admit they do and anyone with common sense would agree, then its their problem to drum up enough applicants.

 
Old 08-21-2014, 04:42 PM
 
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Bottles were thrown and police had to surround her for her protection and whisk her away into a police vehicle. The crowd was pressing in on the cops as they put her in the vehicle.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 04:44 PM
 
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That's true. They could have been more aggressive. It can also be true that they weren't getting a lot of applicants. Maybe they weren't aggressive, maybe they don't have the budget to be, that's all different from purposely not hiring out of discrimination.
For the second time, I never said there was intentional discrimination.

Listen to what you are saying.........do you think they have the budget to pay for what they are dealing with now? Certainly seems like some extra human resource expenses would have been worth it now not to have the animosity they have between the police force and its citizens.

I'm guessing the current chief would pay out of his own pocket if it would make his current nightmare go away.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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Bottles were thrown and police had to surround her for her protection and whisk her away into a police vehicle. The crowd was pressing in on the cops as they put her in the vehicle.
I realize that now. I breezed through the article and just got to the part about the lady calling
her a ***** and that she wanted to hit her but the cops took her away.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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I didn't say it was intentional discrimination. I said they have clearly not put any priority on hiring black officers or they would have more of them.

If they don't have enough black applicants and they need them as they admit they do and anyone with common sense would agree, then its their problem to drum up enough applicants.
Well, it works both ways. I was talking to a security manager at one of the better known casinos a few years ago. He said that they had a very tough time finding applicants that met their qualifications. High school graduate (a year or so of college/former military preferred), passing a fairly simple written test, a thorough physical, no police record, no drugs, passing a lie detector test. Around 95% of those that applied failed. Race wasn't a factor. And they paid quite well with good benefits.

I'd bet many people wouldn't meet those qualifications.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 05:05 PM
 
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Well they should make the test easier for blacks like some States do for a firefighters job , different tests for whites & Blacks .
Please tell me you're being facetious.

That's all we need is a bunch of individuals that couldn't cut the standard test, patrolling our streets.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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You can always alter your applicant pool, if you want to. You may have to find them in another town or at a historically black college, etc. Lots of ways to do that.

I'm quite sure they know that. They've probably attended multiple seminars on the subject. They just didn't want to do it or didn't make it a priority.
What is wrong with you people. If they wanted to work, I mean wanted the job they would apply. Your problem is you think everyone should cater to you.

When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.
--- Thomas Sowell

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Old 08-21-2014, 05:10 PM
 
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Please tell me you're being facetious.

That's all we need is a bunch of individuals that couldn't cut the standard test, patrolling our streets.
No, I don't agree with it, but you'd be surprised how often it's done , especially on some Fire Department tests , been a few court cases over it to , but it still goes on in some States.

I don't think I explained myself correctly , Blacks complained it was unfair because the tests were too hard, they demanded they have a simpler version , the town needed to show they were hiring blacks , so the tests were changed to suit them, whites still had to pass the original written test.

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Old 08-21-2014, 05:13 PM
 
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For the second time, I never said there was intentional discrimination.

Listen to what you are saying.........do you think they have the budget to pay for what they are dealing with now? Certainly seems like some extra human resource expenses would have been worth it now not to have the animosity they have between the police force and its citizens.

I'm guessing the current chief would pay out of his own pocket if it would make his current nightmare go away.
Life does not ask what we want. It presents us with options. Blacks don't want to take advantage of these options then B*TCH because there are not enough black police.

And the last thing the political left needs, or can even afford, are self-reliant individuals.

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Old 08-21-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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Well, it works both ways. I was talking to a security manager at one of the better known casinos a few years ago. He said that they had a very tough time finding applicants that met their qualifications. High school graduate (a year or so of college/former military preferred), passing a fairly simple written test, a thorough physical, no police record, no drugs, passing a lie detector test. Around 95% of those that applied failed. Race wasn't a factor. And they paid quite well with good benefits.

I'd bet many people wouldn't meet those qualifications.
Its not always easy if you have stringent requirements. You have to be creative.

Sometimes you have to partner with the local schools and grow your own future pool. Sometimes you have to use media to get your need out other than just job ads.

Still most people that want to figure it out do. I've never seen a company, or govt agency(especially a government agency) not be able to resolve a recruitment problem within a year or two of focusing on it. I simply don't buy it except in times of extremely low unemployment.
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