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Just watched this story on msnbc (Don't know how I managed to get on that channel, maybe their other 10 or so viewers also saw this story.) Apparently tomorrow the fast food workers around the country will be walking off their easily replaceable jobs, they will be demanding 15/hr, and unions.. Ed Shultz has been slurping up Obama for supporting this, for 5 minutes.
There are so many noble respectable careers/jobs in this country, that many can argue should get a bump in pay.
Someone explain to me.
Why should someone who flips burgers, and ask "Do you want fries with that", someone who has a skill less, entry level, easily replaceable job get paid anywhere near 15/hr?
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We tried that.
People didn't go into engineering and science, or even healthcare. Thats where the jobs always are. They took liberal arts degrees and other easy degrees, so it did no good.
Paying for a 2 yr vocational degree would fair far better
None of the degree fields you just named are cheap, all of them require multiple math ans science courses, all of which require extra pre requisites and extra course and lab fees.And in some cases you have to pay for placement test you have done all that, and if you dont pass that test, you have just wasted a year, maybe 2 of school
Just watched this story on msnbc (Don't know how I managed to get on that channel, maybe their other 10 or so viewers also saw this story.) Apparently tomorrow the fast food workers around the country will be walking off their easily replaceable jobs, they will be demanding 15/hr, and unions.. Ed Shultz has been slurping up Obama for supporting this, for 5 minutes.
There are so many noble respectable careers/jobs in this country, that many can argue should get a bump in pay.
Someone explain to me.
Why should someone who flips burgers, and ask "Do you want fries with that", someone who has a skill less, entry level, easily replaceable job get paid anywhere near 15/hr?
To be honest i think our society has a thinking error. As a business owner my low skill positions are essential for my business i can't run my business without customer service reps and basic skill laborers, i can live without a manager or supervisor or special skill for awhile and run my business.
I don't happen to think that jobs in that industry should pay $15/hr. But it has nothing to do with their being "burger flippers" and everything to do with supply and demand.
Every job that needs to be done is worthwhile, and those performing them should not be denigrated or made to feel that what they're doing has no value.
If they can not afford to live, than they are living in the wrong city/town. If they choose to live in a high COL area that is their own doing.
Maybe they were born and raised there; why should they have to move? They have no business moving TO a place they cannot afford, but if they were there all along, why should they be displaced by newcomers?
Theres nothing wrong with them asking. The point is they should expect to be out of work if they strike because that is not showing up to work at the agreed to pay wage. That is in right to work states a reason to be replaced. They dont have a skill that cannot be replaced with a few hrs of training. These fast food workers are being used by the unions. We all see it. If traffic control workers can be replaced and they had a real skill, then a burger flipper or a person who touches buttoms on a register can easly be replaced and will be.
That's all beside the point.
If they make demands that are so unreasonable as to put them out of work, then who cares? It's their problem, not yours.
But I'm not gonna sit here and say that they aren't worth $15 an hour. I have no way of knowing that. I only know that most of then don't get it now...that doesn't mean much of anything.
So, you want them to move to a new city with no money and no job ?
It is not that I want them to, but, if they can not afford to live where they currently are, it would be wise of them to move somewhere that is more affordable.
Maybe they were born and raised there; why should they have to move? They have no business moving TO a place they cannot afford, but if they were there all along, why should they be displaced by newcomers?
It is not about being displaced by newcomers, it is about doing what one needs to do to survive. In this game we call life, all of us have to do things we don't necessarily want to do, but if it means a better life in the end, is it not worth it?
Conservatives act as if these folks are committing capitol murder by asking.
Nobody is saying any such thing. What is being said is you better be careful what you ask for.
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I have nothing against them demanding $50 an hour if they want to. It's not my place to get between them and their employers.
And I'm DEFINITELY not gonna sit here and make a favorable case on the side of McDonalds or any other fast food corporations. They aren't advocating for me against my boss.
The thing is, this isn't some big movement on the part of fast food workers. They aren't the ones doing this. Those that are, are only interest in what is it in for them and give little care about the long term employment of those they are exploiting.
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