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View Poll Results: Isn't it the time to rethink that conservative "liberals are anti-business" claim as it is
Yes. Liberal socio-economic policies work as evidenced by the richest us states 19 63.33%
No. Only conservative policies work and Alabama and Mississippi are an exception 9 30.00%
I don't know. Need to find out more about the issue. 2 6.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-16-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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Ridiculous..

Large economies dont mean things cant go bankrupt, where did you hear that bull crap from?

Lehman Brothers
Enron
Indymac Bank
Chrysler
General Motors
Those were not large economies, silly, but large companies lol

 
Old 09-16-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by random_thoughts;36518967Lets look at this data showing percentage of people per state who did not have to file taxes or were owed a refund due to no sufficient income, a/k/a [b
people living in poverty[/b]
or people who are retired. This also doesn't take into account people who aren't in this country legally and aren't on our tax rolls, a massive problem for CA.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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or people who are retired.
Who said retirees don't pay taxes?


Back to the topic, the bi-partisan TaxFoundation data clearly shows that poverty levels in conservative states are much higher than in liberal states, including California. Yet conservatives still want the nation to follow their example. lol They want all states to be as successful as Alabama. lol



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This also doesn't take into account people who aren't in this country legally and aren't on our tax rolls, a massive problem for CA.
Its a massive problem in Texas and many other states as well. Next. lol
 
Old 09-16-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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Who said retirees don't pay taxes?
Anyone who is retired and living on retirement savings, you don't know much about this stuff do you?
 
Old 09-16-2014, 11:47 AM
 
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The bi-partisan TaxFoundation data clearly shows that poverty levels in conservative states are much higher than in liberal states, including California. Yet conservatives still want the nation to follow their example. lol They want all states to be as successful as Alabama. lol
Is that really what you take away from that Tax Foundation map? Really? The only thing you've proven in this thread is that our education system has failed a lot of people in this country given how just ignorant you are.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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Yup. California is great and simply better in taking care of its poor, hence high percentage of people collecting welfare.

Lets look at this data showing percentage of people per state who did not have to file taxes or were owed a refund due to no sufficient income, a/k/a people living in poverty:




Cali is still better than most conservative states including Texas, Georgia and Carolinas.


Maybe you should learn something, conservatives?


Monday Map: Nonpayers By State | Tax Foundation
uhm... maybe you should learn that a zero tax liability doesn't mean povery

I earn 65k..and pay ZERO federal tax.... my 12k property tax takes care of that writeoff, and business expense writeoff



liberals will never understand
 
Old 09-16-2014, 11:51 AM
 
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Anyone who is retired and living on retirement savings, you don't know much about this stuff do you?


You might be retired, but you still must pay Uncle Sam | Dallas Morning News
 
Old 09-16-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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uhm... maybe you should learn that a zero tax liability doesn't mean povery

I earn 65k..and pay ZERO federal tax.... my 12k property tax takes care of that writeoff, and business expense writeoff



liberals will never understand
Liberalism is a verifiable mental disorder.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 12:11 PM
 
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Let's try it again:

Here is the map. Analyze the data and tell me that you don't see much higher number of tax-non-payers in conservative states than in liberal states. I'd like to hear you say that... just to prove my point about "southern-education" lol







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Is that really what you take away from that Tax Foundation map? Really? The only thing you've proven in this thread is that our education system has failed a lot of people in this country given how just ignorant you are.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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Who has claimed that Bush era deficits crashed the economy? The claim was you can't be all up in arms about Obama deficits when a vast majority of those were created by the economic crash and the Bush tax cuts. If you're going to attribute an argument to someone, at least know what the argument is.
Or are you agreeing with Mr. Cheney that "deficits don't matter?"
There were LOTS of liberals here moaning about how the Bush "surplus" was turned into deficits which caused the economic collapse..

The Bush tax cuts did NOT create the deficits, nor the crash, it actually increased revenues.

SPENDING increased substantially under a Democratic Congress, and SPENDING is responsible for having less than you receive.
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