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Here is the map. Analyze the data and tell me that you don't see much higher number of tax-non-payers in conservative states than in liberal states. I'd like to hear you say that... just to prove my point about "southern-education" lol
Thats because the federal tax code completely ignores regional cost of living..
$25K income in say Ohio, is vastly different than $25K income in NYC
Here is the map. Analyze the data and tell me that you don't see much higher number of tax-non-payers in conservative states than in liberal states. I'd like to hear you say that... just to prove my point about "southern-education" lol
Let's remember what you started off saying with this map... you stupidly claimed that it shows higher/lower levels of people living in poverty which it does not.
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Originally Posted by random_thoughts
Yup. California is great and simply better in taking care of its poor, hence high percentage of people collecting welfare.
Lets look at this data showing percentage of people per state who did not have to file taxes or were owed a refund due to no sufficient income, a/k/a people living in poverty
This map conveniently doesn't take into account things like illegal immigration, it also doesn't support your original rambling BS in your OP.
Thats because the federal tax code completely ignores regional cost of living..
$25K income in say Ohio, is vastly different than $25K income in NYC
That's a great point, let's see what the Tax Foundation says about that. Hey look, here's the real value of $100 in each state. Notice something about a lot of liberal states?
Here is the map. Analyze the data and tell me that you don't see much higher number of tax-non-payers in conservative states than in liberal states. I'd like to hear you say that... just to prove my point about "southern-education" lol
But you don't understand! The good people of Mississippi are only number one because they get massive amounts of deductions!
According to available data liberal states have higher disposable incomes, which is income already adjusted for the cost of living, than conservative states. There are also more Fortune 500 companies headquartered in liberal states than in conservative states It's actually amazing how much better economically are the liberal states (see the table below), despite the old conservative claim of liberals being anti-business.
As a matter of fact all of the developed, rich nations are liberal, being it Germany, the UK, Australia, Canada or France. All of them are very liberal and all of them way to the left of the US Democratic Party. There is NO rich, developed nation in the world that is politically to "the right of the US".
Many of the macroeconomic mechanisms and resulting policies are counterintuitive, they do not make sense to someone who just glanced over economics 101, yet they do work. The proof is however in the statistics: not only the liberal US states beat conservative states economically but also the entire economically developed world runs on liberal economic policies of sustainable development. The key word being sustainable as in
higher taxes are funding education, which allows for development of cutting edge technologies, that in turn allow businesses to remain globally competitive and states economically successful. There is no other way unless you have natural resources like Dakotas or Alaska and even these will eventually be depleted.
Isn't it the time to rethink that conservative "liberals are anti-business" claim as it is utterly absurd given all the evidence to the contrary we have???
Disposable income per capita 2012
District of Columbia $65,233
Connecticut $48,873
Massachusetts $45,960
New Jersey $45,850
Maryland $44,404
New York $43,524
Wyoming $43,194
North Dakota $42,492
New Hampshire $41,472
Alaska $41,420
South Dakota $41,133
Virginia $40,608
Washington $39,960
Thats because the federal tax code completely ignores regional cost of living..
$25K income in say Ohio, is vastly different than $25K income in NYC
But you also have to take in consideration that states with high income taxes get more of a federal deduction than states with little or no income tax. The sales tax deduction tends to be lower.
Buahahaha. First of all metrics are numbers not some contests for "the best to do business" or "best run state".
Second. What? Wyoming, Nebraska, South Dakota? Pretty much huge states with miniature populations that would fit to New York City's bus and with economies that receive billions in federal funding, quite a few thousand dollars per capita.
The 'best to do business' or 'best run state' rankings are built from real-world numbers, not something someone just makes up.
You're rejecting successful Conservative states because they're not big enough, or should I say, they disprove your wide-reaching claims that R-run states are failures. FYI, Nebraska pays out more in taxes than they collect. ND is less dependent than CA.
Those Liberal states that pay the most in Federal taxes have the most 1%ers, who pay 70% of Federal income taxes. CN, NY, CA, NJ & MA have the highest percentage of taxpayers earning over $200k, so its the rich greedy millionaires who progressives hate so much who are picking up the tab that let them boast that their 'rich' states subsidize 'poor' red states.
Let's remember what you started off saying with this map... you stupidly claimed that it shows higher/lower levels of people living in poverty which it does not.
Of course it does. More people paying taxes means more people with taxable incomes. Less people paying taxes shows more with minimal or none income. What's so strange about it?
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This map conveniently doesn't take into account things like illegal immigration, it also doesn't support your original rambling BS in your OP.
Stop backing off and admit that liberal states are better off economically than conservative states.
As a matter of fact the poorest states in the nation are all conservative: Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana. Yes, conservative paradise, indeed.
Ah, so thats explains while more people pay taxes in New York than in Alabama? How?
haha, because they have to earn $100K in NYC to have the same cost of living as someone from Alabama..
And with higher income, they are then taxed on the federal level.
Yeah you deserve numerous
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