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Old 09-17-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Before alchohol prohibition the U.S. had an alchohol problem. During alchohol prohibition the U.S. had an alchohol problem and an organised crime problem. And we still have an organised crime problem. Prohibition was a miserable failure.
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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No, the organized crime brings it to the superbowl. The whole point is that we don't need more organized crime, but pot decriminalization will attract them.
First, nobody is pushing for decriminalization. What's being pursued is legalization, which is a totally different scenario.

Second, your contention is that by removing criminal penalties we're going to make more crime? Exactly how is this supposed to happen?
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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All EU countries are safer than US regardless of their pot laws, which is why it is a moot point. The effect of decriminalization in any given country is relevant. Crime in Holland skyrocketed when they decriminalized pot, which is a relevant point in this discussion. So, crime is already high in US, but it would become even worse if pot was decriminalized. This why it is not an individual freedom issue, it is a public safety issue. The Constitution mandates the government provide for domestic tranquility, so let's not do the opposite and drive crime up by decriminalization. Individual freedoms are great, but when they infringe on the wellbeing of our neighbors, then a line has been crossed.
I know a man from Belgium and the pot and socialist way of life in Europe is creating a new class of Slugs know an the next Gen.
He pays for his grown children causally go in and out of College and his child are 27 and 24. New Gen is unemployed and smoke pot in the park.

Do we really want Europe?
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:25 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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I know a man from Belgium and the pot and socialist way of life in Europe is creating a new class of Slugs know an the next Gen.
He pays for his grown children causally go in and out of College and his child are 27 and 24. New Gen is unemployed and smoke pot in the park.

Do we really want Europe?

Supporting legalization is not exclusive to socialism or liberalism. It's about telling the government to pound salt, and stop dictating what people consume, and what they do with their bodies! Or is that only a "conservative, small government stance" when it's convenient? Let's not forget that prohibition came under FDR's watch who was a DEMOCRAT!!! Furthermore, you reference all of those unemployed pot smokers, but what about the many more pot smokers who work for a living in all walks and proffessions of life... sales, doctors, lawyers, cops, judges, politicians, athletes, musicians, teachers? Let's not forget some of the most influential and most innovative people throughout time, partook in the so called "devil's weed." Yes even a few of our forefathers.
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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I think there will, in fact, be unintended consequences of legalizing marijuana. Those with a propensity to be "pot-heads" will no longer have an incentive to be anything other than a "pot head." How could that possibly be good for America?
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I think there will, in fact, be unintended consequences of legalizing marijuana. Those with a propensity to be "pot-heads" will no longer have an incentive to be anything other than a "pot head." How could that possibly be good for America?
Those with a propensity to be "pot heads" are already pot heads, for the most part. They make up a tiny fraction of marijuana users, though. Most marijuana users are gainfully employed.
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:54 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Those with a propensity to be "pot heads" are already pot heads, for the most part. They make up a tiny fraction of marijuana users, though. Most marijuana users are gainfully employed.

And, you would be correct. The sky will not fall with legalization of cannabis. Just as the sky did not fall when prohibition of alcohol ended.
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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Those with a propensity to be "pot heads" are already pot heads, for the most part. They make up a tiny fraction of marijuana users, though. Most marijuana users are gainfully employed.
That may be true, but are there statistics to back that up?
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I know a man from Belgium and the pot and socialist way of life in Europe is creating a new class of Slugs know an the next Gen.
He pays for his grown children causally go in and out of College and his child are 27 and 24. New Gen is unemployed and smoke pot in the park.

Do we really want Europe?
No thanks Holland and Belgium is there for those who admire their lifestyles. Pot increases crime, creates social bums, who end up living off of other peoples money.
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Old 09-17-2014, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I think there will, in fact, be unintended consequences of legalizing marijuana. Those with a propensity to be "pot-heads" will no longer have an incentive to be anything other than a "pot head." How could that possibly be good for America?
I think it's good we have a State in Colorado which will attract the bums. Many Florida pot heads have already moved out there, and when they move, they are off our welfare rolls.
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