Ebola in Our Midsts Part 2 (top 10, pregnancy, advocate, Congress)
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I saw that last night.. the guy is standing there with no protection and talking to the hazmat guys who moved the second infected nurse who is has a high viral load by now. I am shocked at the stupidity of people and the hazmat guys didn't tell the guy to move away from there. He stood next to one guy which was clearly hazardous.
I know what you mean. I also know that nurse 2 was encapsulated as were those personally tending to her.
Let me ask you a pointed question since you keep going on about the "less than 1%".
If you had a family member, good friend, etc who was part of that "less than 1%" that got infected, could have been prevented by getting infected by pulling a passport from someone from an infected zone who infected this friend/family member you know(either directly/indirectly), would you still be going on like those "less than 1%" somehow don't matter that much/it's not a big deal?
YES.
Because I think about these issues rationally, not emotionally.
And because I think about these issues not just from my own selfish viewpoint, but I try to see the point of view of the people actually affected. The Liberians are real people. Who are trying to live their lives, raise their families, earn a living, just like you and I. They face more challenges than you and I, because they live in a poor country with much fewer resources. And the reality is that if LESS THAN 1% of the Liberian people are infected, and that the people least likely to be infected would be the people wealthy enough to travel and therefore to insulate themselves from this virus, then you would expect that more than 99.9% of the people you put in isolation would end up being virus-free. That's what makes it unreasonable. Besides which, it would be pointless unless you somehow convinced every other nation on the planet to similarly require a 3-week isolation period, and that the isolation would apply to every person leaving the country, not just Liberians. That's virtually impossible to do. Do you think the Soviet Union or China is going to go along with the United States? Do you think the Soviet Union or China would agree to an isolation quarantine for one of their citizens who tested negative for the virus on the day they presented themselves to the airport?
But I'm still fully confident that the competent and intelligent among us will be able to contain Ebola in the United States, that we have the resources to do so, and that containing Ebola is everyone's goal.
Certainly hope you're right but with the incompetency we've all seen, it's hard to have confidence in any of this.
The fact that the people living with him have not gotten sick is good news. Maybe Duncan's contagious state was at it's peak when he was admitted the second time. Or maybe the risk of infection is not always the same from patient to patient? <shrug>
Wouldn't you think that the people who would have been protecting them selves with the most care, and the least susseptable to contracting the disease, would have been the medical personnel?
i honestly dont know what to think.
I do know that based on reports I am hearing today, (I think weve all seen them) the medical personel werent really properly protected. That seems to be the Lesson learned.
It's always been airborne in the practical sense. Scientists are just so darn technical and don't know how to communicate important information in language that most people can process. The world isn't a courtroom. Yes scientifically it's not airborne, yet but you can get it through saliva which means coughing can spread it.
Thus far, I can't find where CIDRAP has made any such finding.
Read the article.
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Altogether, these epidemiologic and experimental data offer enough evidence to suggest that Ebola and other filoviruses may be opportunistic with respect to aerosol transmission.28 That is, other routes of entry may be more important and probable, but, given the right conditions, it is possible that transmission could also occur via aerosols.
This virus is much more potent than other strains of Ebola. CDC stated that someone three feet away can contract ebola from a sneeze or cough.
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