Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Closed Thread Start New Thread
 
Old 11-12-2014, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
5,177 posts, read 4,794,097 times
Reputation: 2587

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvxplorer View Post
There are many independent voters out there. We aren't as stupid as the partisan hacks, who will always exist.
I disagree. Most independents keep voting for whichever of the two party system candidates appeal to them. No help there at all.

 
Old 11-12-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
9,319 posts, read 18,752,843 times
Reputation: 5764
Well many of us mouth breathing Americans saw through the thin veil of honesty when the ACA came upon us. Nancy stood there and said we had to pass it before we knew what was in it....but many of us stupid Americans already knew what was in it. Harry claimed it would lower our premiums, but us stuuuuupid Americans knowing even the most basic math, knew that was probably not going to be the case. So the only really stuuuuupid Americans I see are the liberals who jumped for joy over this mess. Probably not going to get them to admit there is anything behind Bengazi or the IRS scandal either....they are simply too intelligent for us stupid Americans pfttttt. The really sad part of this is....the DNC thinks its supporters are stupid. Easy as pie to pull things over on it base it is.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: USA
31,081 posts, read 22,101,630 times
Reputation: 19100
Quote:
Originally Posted by armory View Post
George Orwell was a prophet.
We should create a religion based on that guy
 
Old 11-12-2014, 01:31 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
89,061 posts, read 44,866,510 times
Reputation: 13718
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
"We have to pass it to find out what is in it'............. 'children'.

No outcry, no spokesman saying that Nancy is resting comfortably and will soon retire to spend more time with her family. No media tidal wave examing that statement.

That was the pivot point, the conclusive piece of evidence that America was there for the taking by anyone who found them useful to forward their political agenda. That was the shot heard around the world!

Of course MO's famous quote, 'we have to rewrite our history" has gone unexamined, not questioned and essentially ignored by the media and "journalists". then downstream we get charges by dems that repubs are trying to re-write history. What a co-ink- a -dink!

"Solyndra was an investment'
"you can keep your doctor"
"shovel ready jobs"
"cash for clunkers"
"Ft Hood was workplace violence"
"CO2 is classified as a pollutant"
"the Chicago climate futures exchange"
"the website will be up and running on schedule'
"employment is at its lowest since..."
"we have to study the impact of the pipeline"
"not a smidgen of corruptuion"

"It was the video that caused the embassy to be attacked"......"but what does it matter"
"guam will tip over....."
"harry reid!!!!! still holds office
'energy proces will necessarily skyrocket under my energy paln"

"hoffa jr speaks these words just before obama takes his palce at the podium and no media scrutiny, no concern from Pelosi about violent rhetoric...''we have to take the sobs out'....

GM shareholders lose big to unions as Obama breaks the law to curry favor of the unions

a transparency award given in private to the exclusion of the press....no media scrutiny

Tim the tax cheat made an Oops! maybe we need to nominate more suspicious characters to high office so a sudden discovery of a latent tax payment will be made.

So yes, collectively, just enough of America is running on empty for the career politicians to feed on. An evolution has taken place and pols learned that anything can be legislated if the legislation bears an empathetic name or is for the health and safety of the public.
It was done intentionally. Public schools. They've been purposely dumbing down the populace for the last 50 years.
Quote:
"While students in the bottom quartile have shown slow but steady improvement since the 1960s, average test scores have nonetheless gone down, primarily because of the performance of those in the top quartile. This "highest cohort of achievers," Rudman writes, has shown "the greatest declines across a variety of subjects as well as across age-level groups." Analysts have also found "a substantial drop among those children in the middle range of achievement," he continues, "but less loss and some modest gains at the lower levels." In other words, our brightest youngsters, those most likely to be headed for selective colleges, have suffered the most dramatic setbacks over the past two decades--a fact with grave implications for our ability to compete with other nations in the future. If this is true--and abundant evidence exists to suggest that it is--then we indeed have a second major crisis in our education system.

...The contrast was stark: schools that had "severely declining test scores" had "moved determinedly toward heterogeneous grouping" (that is, mixed students of differing ability levels in the same classes), while the "schools who have maintained good SAT scores" tended "to prefer homogeneous grouping."

If attaining educational excellence is this simple, why have these high-quality schools become so rare? The answer lies in the cultural ferment of the 1960s.

THE INCUBUS OF THE SIXTIES

In every conceivable fashion the reigning ethos of those times was hostile to excellence in education. Individual achievement fell under intense suspicion, as did attempts to maintain standards. Discriminating among students on the basis of ability or performance was branded "elitist." Educational gurus of the day called for essentially nonacademic schools, whose main purpose would be to build habits of social cooperation and equality rather than to train the mind."
The Other Crisis in American Education - 91.11

And there you have it from back in 1991, over 20 years ago. In the 1960s, a public school education stopped being about academic excellence and started being about social cooperation and equal educational outcomes, which by definition means that the vast majority will only be educated to a below average level.

Gruber is correct in pointing out the stupidity of the American voters. The public schools have guaranteed that result for the past 50 years.

Need any more convincing of that? Look at the NAEP results. U.S. public schools educate only 26% of all public school students to even basic grade-level proficiency in math, and only 38% are proficient in reading, by 12th grade.

NAEP - Mathematics and Reading 2013

That in and of itself is bad enough, but pay very careful attention to the much lower basic proficiency percentages for Black and Hispanic students.

Percent of White students at least basically proficient in math by 12th grade: 33%
At least basically proficient in reading by 12th grade: 47%

Proficiency percentages for Hispanic students:
Math: 12%
Reading: 23%

Proficiency percentages for Black students:
Math: 7%
Reading: 16%

Note the differences?

Public schools have been all about dumbing down as many as possible for the last 50 years in the name of some perverted idea of "social justice." Politicians have merely just taken advantage of the tidal wave of stupid.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 01:37 PM
 
48,502 posts, read 96,886,289 times
Reputation: 18305
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike0618 View Post
They educate us.
They tell us what they want us to learn.
They tell us our choices for who we can vote for.
They lie to us thru their words and actions and know we wont do anything about it.

We get on planes while sick because they dont make a issue of it at the time, then do after the fact.
We fight each other over beliefs and skin colors which they taught us to do generation after generation.

It is so ovious to me when i see anyone from either party leadership talk that they think... They know that the american people as a whole are stupid! They act as though we cant handle truth. Like it will cause a panic with ebola. That we wont do anything about the boarders, health care, their lack of getting most anything done. They know if they are out of power now they will be back in power in 4-8 yrs. that both parties are close to the same when it comes to leadership and the sheep will follow.

I am sick of it!

Please look past their lies and speak up!
You seem to just do what your told ;OP. If a adult then grow up.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 01:40 PM
 
11,086 posts, read 8,549,057 times
Reputation: 6392
Bots are that stupid.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
14,361 posts, read 9,794,304 times
Reputation: 6663
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjake54 View Post
What is the purpose of this thread? A rant? A conversation?
When do you think stupidity began? "All men are created equal", but excluding women, slaves & the poor? When the previous president, a "gentlemen's C" student, was elected & got us into new military conflicts? Or, only when voters elected the current president?
Do you think that people in the 19th century who could barely read or write, were smarter? Direct election of senators did not occur until 1912, because the Founding Fathers wanted a control above the House of Representatives, similar to the House Of Lords.

Did you pass elementary school English?
Nothing like attacking a person's typing skills. That is obviously the problem !

I'm not giving a pass to GWB, but I'm sick of him being the scapegoat for the absolute evacuation of common sense and logic. This President all but laid out what he would do, and he did it. He said we would necessarily have to suffer his "change." Now, here we are.

I wish people had listened to Bill Clinton when he cried foul on Obama. When a person has no conscience about how he gains position and power, you generally get a really bad deal.

Welcome to the transparently bad deal ideologues saddled us with!
 
Old 11-12-2014, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
41,479 posts, read 59,805,597 times
Reputation: 24863
Funny thing about that anti - education rant. it is absurd and nothing new. forty five years ago while attending my first college level American History class the professor asked the class what form of government we had. most of the answers were some form of "democracy". I, as freshly minted Vietnam survivor, was the first to answer, "a Republic." IMHO college freshmen were just as dumb then as now.

During a conservation with a college Dean I asked him what was the real point of school. His answer was, more or less, "We try to make Professor cookies in undergrad schools and bake them off in graduate school." This was followed by the observation that the "A" students would go on to be professors while the "B" students would go to work for the "C" students.

Not much has changed. The mob wants entertainment that is funny and makes them feel superior to the poor fools on the screen or some form of brutality. That goes back a very long way. Most folks are not that stupid but they are unconcerned until something like a huge hospital bill breaks through their bubble. Then they wake up and see the value of disconnecting health insurance form employment or wealth.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
33,571 posts, read 18,174,016 times
Reputation: 15551
Quote:
Originally Posted by MotleyCrew View Post
Well many of us mouth breathing Americans saw through the thin veil of honesty when the ACA came upon us. Nancy stood there and said we had to pass it before we knew what was in it....but many of us stupid Americans already knew what was in it. Harry claimed it would lower our premiums, but us stuuuuupid Americans knowing even the most basic math, knew that was probably not going to be the case. So the only really stuuuuupid Americans I see are the liberals who jumped for joy over this mess. Probably not going to get them to admit there is anything behind Bengazi or the IRS scandal either....they are simply too intelligent for us stupid Americans pfttttt. The really sad part of this is....the DNC thinks its supporters are stupid. Easy as pie to pull things over on it base it is.
This is Obamacare..
When the deductible is $5000 , one must pay the first $5000 then the medical coverage will kick in. And each year , that $5000 has to be paid plus the premium before any actual bill is paid by Obamacare.
 
Old 11-12-2014, 02:09 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
13,621 posts, read 12,736,880 times
Reputation: 20050
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTerri View Post
I think brainwashed is probably more accurate then stupid. It has been very effective I'd say.
I think its a combo mostly brainwashing and some stupid all placed on a sesame seed bun
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:03 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top