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Old 11-10-2014, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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In what way has the EPA regulated your stock tank?
The EPA shouldn't be controlling private water on private land.
How can you debate this if you don't even know what we are debating ?
Do you not follow what changes have taken place within the EPA ?

That is not the EPA's job.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:51 AM
 
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the EPA isnt going away anytime soon. all that will happen is regulations will be reigned in slightly, with an eye on cost/benefit analysis. if a regulation costs far more than any benefits it might create, then it goes away.

in the end people still like breathing clean air and drinking clean water. and since its creation the EPA has done a lot of good. but there comes a point where it can go overboard, and we have past that point.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:52 AM
 
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Conservatives can go live in states that do away with the EPA, liberals can live in states that regulate air and water quality. Tell me how that goes.
That would work out fine because we'll just keep the ones that are practical and sane and do away with the feel good ones.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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Strawman
By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate.
The irony of you quoting that is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:53 AM
 
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The EPA shouldn't be controlling private water on private land.
How can you debate this if you don't even know what we are debating ?
Do you not follow what changes have taken place within the EPA ?

That is not the EPA's job.
The EPA would like for us to haul our drilling mud to a toxic waste dump.

That would make a $10,000 water well a $30,000 water well.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:56 AM
 
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The EPA would like for us to haul our drilling mud to a toxic waste dump.

That would make a $10,000 water well a $30,000 water well.
...and this is a problem because?
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I guess you'd prefer cancer?



WHAT?? You mean the EPA is preventing all forms of cancer in America? Wow is my father in law gonna be pissed, he just went thru an aggressive cancer treatment process. When I let him know he didn't really have cancer (because the EPA is protecting us) he's not gonna be a happy guy!

You libbies are so extreme, it's either unlimitless power to the EPA to do anything they want, or else it's cancer for everyone. What drama queens.
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:58 AM
 
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...and this is a problem because?
Most people would go without running water in their homes. (people that depend on water wells)
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Old 11-10-2014, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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The EPA cured cancer?
No but it helps. I guess you'd prefer air pollution (and associated cancer rates and low lifespans) like urban China.

But I suspect Obama will have to veto some utterly reckless anti-EPA bills in the coming months. What's a little cancer when we have an economy to maximize?
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Terrible logical premise.

"Don't correct the bad here, because it will just move overseas."
Driving up energy rates and losing the health benefits of those cheaper rates is perfectly acceptable to you even if it makes the problem worse?

If you want to attack mercury emissions you need to attack the major sources and that is Asian countries and gold mining in third world countries.
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