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Old 11-13-2014, 05:12 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Good news!
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:16 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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And when courts overrule gay marriage bans, they say its unconstitutional. Then people scream "liberal judges"

Same difference. Some only seem to like it when it agrees with their view.

Like I said, I'm for concealed carry, I think its silly people in california can't. But its not my state, and the right to bear arms never said "under your shirt" hence the bear part
Where is there anything in the Constitution about marriage? Marriage is not a "right" under the Constitution. Therefore, banning of so-called "gay marriage" is not unconstitutional.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:25 AM
 
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As I said, thats concealed weapons exactly how?
It's either concealed or open carry, and since open carry is illegal in CA that only leaves one option.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I'm for states rights, shouldn't it be up to the people of the state to decide? Isn't that the argument on abortion?

I support concealed carry btw. I just find it odd when someone cheers a decision like this, but if a court overturns gay marriage bans or abortion bans, suddenly the court is to liberal.
States rights only goes as far as the Constitution allows. And there is a growing body of court decisions, such recent decisions in Illinois, that concealed carry cannot be denied.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm for states rights, shouldn't it be up to the people of the state to decide? Isn't that the argument on abortion?

I support concealed carry btw. I just find it odd when someone cheers a decision like this, but if a court overturns gay marriage bans or abortion bans, suddenly the court is to liberal.
Abortion and marriage aren't specified in the constitution or the bill of rights. If our founding fathers knew homosexuals wanted to act married and mothers wanted to kill their children in 2014 then maybe they would have addressed it.
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Old 11-13-2014, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Where is there anything in the Constitution about marriage? Marriage is not a "right" under the Constitution. Therefore, banning of so-called "gay marriage" is not unconstitutional.
Many rights are not specifically called out in the Constitution. But for some time marriage has been ruled a right. So under the 14th Amendment, which provides "equal protection under the law" it appears that we are headed towards rulings that do not allow states to deny marriage to same sex couples.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Oregon
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They need to work on getting rid of all the other stupid gun restrictions california has.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Where is there anything in the Constitution about marriage? Marriage is not a "right" under the Constitution. Therefore, banning of so-called "gay marriage" is not unconstitutional.
Neither is concealed or loaded guns. You can carry bullets and your gun openly from my understanding, the two can't be put together. Now, as I said, I think this is silly, but my point remains

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It's either concealed or open carry, and since open carry is illegal in CA that only leaves one option.
Open carry isn't illegal. Its open and loaded thats illegal

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States rights only goes as far as the Constitution allows. And there is a growing body of court decisions, such recent decisions in Illinois, that concealed carry cannot be denied.
We'll see how the courts decide. I think not allowing concealed or open carry is silly. I'm not a federal judge though

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Abortion and marriage aren't specified in the constitution or the bill of rights. If our founding fathers knew homosexuals wanted to act married and mothers wanted to kill their children in 2014 then maybe they would have addressed it.
Neither was concealed carry.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Open carry isn't illegal. Its open and loaded thats illegal.
A broad ban on all gun carrying in public, the court held, violates the Second Amendment. Period.

That is exactly why this is a great news for Californians. We have been treated like second class citizens.
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Old 11-13-2014, 06:52 AM
 
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Hopefully this will be the first step in changing the other MAY carry states to SHALL carry.
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