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So you have plenty of time to look for another possibly better plan... Are you doing that or will you be like someone who cries & blames ACA & refuses to look for another plan even though you have ample time & resources to do so?
If you like your healthcare plan you can keep your healthcare plan, period
-- Barack Obama
I'm not so easy to give a pass to people who lie to me as you are. Maybe that's why I don't need to steal from others like you do.
So you have plenty of time to look for another possibly better plan... Are you doing that or will you be like someone who cries & blames ACA & refuses to look for another plan even though you have ample time & resources to do so?
Didnt your friends have plenty of time to look for other plans? Why do you excuse your friends pre ACA while bashing others post ACA?
I know the answer, no need to respond.. You cant attack Democratic policies destined for failure, Democrats will cry till the sun doesnt shine anymore.
Insurance policies renew yearly, there isnt any grandfathering into them.
For gods sakes how dam stupid is the average Democratic voter?
When an insurance policy comes up for renewal, its a NEW contract, thus a grandfathering wouldnt apply.
Actually my policy was grandfathered. If this is the case, they renewed my policy and the policy terms were grandfathered which allowed me to keep my plan until December 31, 2014 at which point it is terminated due to ACA.
They want to force me over to Obamacare plans then Obama will spin it and claim that people are all breaking down the doors to buy Obamacare.
Actually my policy was grandfathered. If this is the case, they renewed my policy and the policy terms were grandfathered which allowed me to keep my plan until December 31, 2014 at which point it is terminated due to ACA.
They want to force me over to Obamacare plans then spin it and claim that people are all breaking down the doors to buy Obamacare.
That was just a temporary grandfathering, meant to reduce the harm that it was being done. Technically if they changed the price on you, it wasnt a grandfathered policy, it was a new policy that the government simply turned their head on because it wasnt in compliance..
had they not grandfathered in some policy, even millions more would have lost insurance..
Why didnt your friends have policies pre ACA? Who's fault would that be exactly? YOUR FRIENDS!!!
it works both ways
So why aren't you out looking for another plan instead of whining about it on the internet? My friends did the work & research to get their plans, they didn't come on here to cry & blame Obama for their insurance problems. Maybe take a cue & get your insurance in line, people get bored hearing lazy folks whine about not having insurance.
yes, anything that indicates people have been harmed, isnt "valid" in your mind.
I did not.. Obama himself said there was 30 million uninsured americans, are you telling me Obama lied again?
You know Obama used different numbers as the debate went on. CBO uses its numbers, the Census Bureau has numbers. It looks like you take different numbers from different sources, subtract illegals when it satisfies you, and come up with figures that are uniquely yours.
So why aren't you out looking for another plan instead of whining about it on the internet? My friends did the work & research to get their plans, they didn't come on here to cry & blame Obama for their insurance problems. Maybe take a cue & get your insurance in line, people get bored hearing lazy folks whine about not having insurance.
i'm not complaining about not having insurance.
I note you didnt answer the question though, why didnt your lazy friends have insurance pre ACA?
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Originally Posted by jazzarama
You know Obama used different numbers as the debate went on. CBO uses its numbers, the Census Bureau has numbers. It looks like you take different numbers from different sources, subtract illegals when it satisfies you, and come up with figures that are uniquely yours.
Yes I'm very well aware of it, it started with 50 million uninsured and thats when they realized that Obama was counting the illegals which was 14 million.. Obama then started under counting the americans in order to avoid criticism, and he started quoting 30 million.
That count at the time was 36 million uninsured americans after subtracting 14 million from the 50 million orginally used.
Last year finished with 41 million uninsured, a climb of 5 million uninsured from ACA being signed into law, but lower than the previous year which was 48 million, because an estimated 12 million lost policies due to ACA.
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