Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-25-2015, 08:34 AM
 
3,978 posts, read 4,578,096 times
Reputation: 2243

Advertisements

Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-25-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
39,874 posts, read 26,514,597 times
Reputation: 25773
I don't think you can lump all blacks as a group any more than you can whites or any other race. There are smart, educated, hard working, successful black people out there. Those that want to get ahead, be safe in their homes and feel like they have a chance to walk the streets without dying at the hands of thugs. Those blacks typically vote Republicans. As do whites with similar traits.

There are also blacks and whites that are lazy, ignorant, feel the world owes them something for nothing, don't want to work and feel that a life of crime and drug use is something to aspire to. They are referred to as Democrats.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2015, 09:01 AM
 
41,110 posts, read 25,740,361 times
Reputation: 13868
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
I don't think you can lump all blacks as a group any more than you can whites or any other race. There are smart, educated, hard working, successful black people out there. Those that want to get ahead, be safe in their homes and feel like they have a chance to walk the streets without dying at the hands of thugs. Those blacks typically vote Republicans. As do whites with similar traits.

There are also blacks and whites that are lazy, ignorant, feel the world owes them something for nothing, don't want to work and feel that a life of crime and drug use is something to aspire to. They are referred to as Democrats.
well said.

And now instead of being closet gay, it's now closet republican.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2015, 09:03 AM
 
19,573 posts, read 8,522,211 times
Reputation: 10096
Think about "Battered housewives syndrome" and "Stockholm Syndrome".

Battered housewives syndrome is where housewives are beaten and abused by their husbands, and when he approaches her after abusing her and says "You know I love you baby. I didn't mean that. Come on back baby. Its you and me forever." And then she forgives him, defends him to her friends, makes excuses for him and his abusive behavior, lies for him, and goes back to him, even though he continues to abuse her, again and again and again. He is the devil she knows and she will not even try to break the cycle, in part because she does not have the self confidence to do so.

Stockholm syndrome is when someone who is abducted and dominated by their captors comes to identify with their slavemasters, accepting their role. Like battered housewives syndrome, the abductee will make excuses for their captors and their abusive behavior and become conditioned to this role.

The Democrats make promises to black people every year which are not kept. In fact, what promise is it that poor black people are holding out for now from the Democrats that they believe are worthy of their devotion and that they believe ever will be kept? Can someone answer that for me please?

It is not just social issues.
  1. It is education issues, where black people increasingly support school choice, which Republicans also champion and which Democrats broadly oppose.
  2. It is economic issues, where Democrats support opening the boarders to illegal immigrants that take jobs at submarket wages that would be available to them if the illegals were not pouring across the boards, with Democratic support.
  3. It is issues of personal respect, where Democrats pander to black people with petty handouts and welfare programs and ghetto housing, where Republicans see that as demeaning and not something that anyone should be content with.
  4. It is racial issues, where Democrats are constantly emphasizing differences in our skin pigmentation as something to split us by and divide up with, when that is in truth the smallest and most irrelevant difference that exists between humans. In fact, there is only one race, the human race, and if black people (and all people) would reject attempts by political exploitationists to try to divide us up this way, they would be much happier people and members of our society. Republicans support this kind of equality, Democrats obviously do not.
Black people appear to identify very closely with Democrats, who over the last 50 years have not appreciably helped them with anything. Democrats make the same promises, election after election, which are cast aside literally the day after the election every time. And that has even happened during the last six years of our first black President, Barack Obama.

Understanding phenomenon like Battered Housewives Syndrome and Stockholm Syndrome are instructive in understanding how this can continue to be happening.

Last edited by Spartacus713; 01-25-2015 at 09:43 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2015, 09:05 AM
 
963 posts, read 689,763 times
Reputation: 759
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker15 View Post
Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
Free stuff from their white neighbors.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
6,542 posts, read 4,095,978 times
Reputation: 3806
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker15 View Post
Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
How often are gay couples walking across stages?

Without making sweeping generalizations, I'll just state the obvious. Some blacks are conservative, some blacks are liberals. Sort of like every other race.

Yeah, a lot of black people hold Christian values. No idea why. If you look at history... well, I'd drop that immediately. But they don't all vote based on that. In my humble opinion, only an complete moron would vote based on religious principle.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2015, 09:33 AM
 
283 posts, read 521,907 times
Reputation: 293
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
I don't think you can lump all blacks as a group any more than you can whites or any other race. There are smart, educated, hard working, successful black people out there. Those that want to get ahead, be safe in their homes and feel like they have a chance to walk the streets without dying at the hands of thugs. Those blacks typically vote Republicans. As do whites with similar traits.

There are also blacks and whites that are lazy, ignorant, feel the world owes them something for nothing, don't want to work and feel that a life of crime and drug use is something to aspire to. They are referred to as Democrats.
SMH @ this tripe.

I'm black and don't vote or care for either party, but the simple fact is that the one-sided voting pattern in the black community has to do with perception. The GOP is simply perceived a racist party, and it's not because they don't pander, race-bait or believe in hand outs. It's because they make and support ludicrous remarks like this.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2015, 09:45 AM
 
52,431 posts, read 26,636,151 times
Reputation: 21097
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pookie Jenkins View Post
....The GOP is simply perceived a racist party, .....
Is there anything these days that Blacks don't see as racist? That term and description has become synonymous for anything not liked whether racism had anything to do with it or not.

The problem of course is that with blind allegiance to one political party, then that political party will no longer care much for their interests until they absolutely have to.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2015, 10:04 AM
 
2,003 posts, read 1,545,892 times
Reputation: 1102
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaker15 View Post
Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
Well, perhaps when republicans stop applying apalling stereotypes to black people, and openly celebrating violence against them (eg. Trayvon Martin, Ferguson), black people will give them a look. Until then, no.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-25-2015, 10:36 AM
 
3,978 posts, read 4,578,096 times
Reputation: 2243
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
I don't think you can lump all blacks as a group.
I think we can! The majority of blacks voted for Obama. Wasn't it like over 90%?

It's one thing to say that you can't lump all East Asians are educated, since only about maybe 60% of them are college educated if they grew up here in the USA, but over 90%, yes you can lump them together.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:27 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top