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Old 01-25-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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So? They voted similarly for Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Dukakis, Mondale, Carter, and Johnson.

The last time Republicans managed to get a significant portion of the black vote was Kennedy.

You can say that's because 90% of black people are "lazy, ignorant, feel the world owes them something for nothing, don't want to work and feel that a life of crime and drug use is something to aspire to,"
but that's not actually going to help Republicans get more votes. Not saying those things might, though.

When the GOP stops lumping (almost) all black people together as a bunch of thuggish drug addicts and criminals who feed at the government trough, maybe they can start to recoup some of the black vote by pushing an anti-whatever-other-group agenda.

If the GOP tries to appeal to black people, they risk losing one of their core constituencies. The party really only appeals to right wing authoritarian bigots, war mongers, and people who can't handle basic mathematics. How many of the bigots would they have to give up to bring black bigots into the fold?
I am always amazed by the stark contrast at the Republican and Democratic conventions. When the camera takes a wide shot of the Dems' audience, it looks like America the melting pot. When it shows the Reps audience, it looks like a gathering of exclusivity and homogeneity. But don't worry, the Cons will try to point out that there was a token black or other in the audience to pat themselves on the back.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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It's always funny to me when conservatives wonder aloud why black people won't vote for them. Shall we have a history lesson?

Prior to the 1960's, black people were a pretty reliable Republican constituency. That was Lincoln's legacy. Democrats had a lock on racist white people in The South- that was the Confederacy's legacy.

Then Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Southerners were predictably LIVID (you know- because 'their' president had just given black people some rights). As LBJ put it: "We have lost the South for a generation"

And since then, racist white southerners (formerly DixieCrats) have almost universally switched over to the Republican Party.



So when somebody asks why don't these very christian black people vote for the self-appointed God's Own Party... well it just proves that they either don't know or actively ignore history.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
I especially like the part about the black community at large being for personal responsibility and respecting education.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:16 PM
 
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Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
It is a generational/assumed vote. Blacks are programmed that whites are out to get them, and it is the GOP establishment to blame. It is true that their values are more in line with GOP, but the dems have found a way to hang on. The numbers are really ridiculous... it is a shame.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:22 PM
 
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It's always funny to me when conservatives wonder aloud why black people won't vote for them. Shall we have a history lesson?

Prior to the 1960's, black people were a pretty reliable Republican constituency. That was Lincoln's legacy. Democrats had a lock on racist white people in The South- that was the Confederacy's legacy.

Then Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Southerners were predictably LIVID (you know- because 'their' president had just given black people some rights). As LBJ put it: "We have lost the South for a generation"

And since then, racist white southerners (formerly DixieCrats) have almost universally switched over to the Republican Party.



So when somebody asks why don't these very christian black people vote for the self-appointed God's Own Party... well it just proves that they either don't know or actively ignore history.
hey turkey?? what year is it? If your theory is correct the then the next generation would be voting repubs too. White people don't care about what LBJ did or didn't do back in 1960. And, what about all the white democrats that voted for Jimmy Carter? Bill Clinton? 30 years later? You might be correct that some blacks think this way. But, times have changed!
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:30 PM
 
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hey turkey?? what year is it? If your theory is correct the then the next generation would be voting repubs too. White people don't care about what LBJ did or didn't do back in 1960. And, what about all the white democrats that voted for Jimmy Carter? Bill Clinton? 30 years later? You might be correct that some blacks think this way. But, times have changed!
The question is why don't black people vote for Republicans.

Well they DID vote for Republicans consistently for about a CENTURY. Until LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and caused a political realignment. That same political realignment is why the South has consistently and inexorably moved toward the GOP since the Civil Rights Act was signed.

Saying "Nuh-Uh!!" isn't much of an argument.


So what's it like voting for the party that the VAST majority of white racists support?
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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Aren't blacks more in line with republicans socially on issues such as Christian values, traditional marriage, etc. When has it ever occur that a gay couple walk into a stage when nearly full black audience and the couple gets warm welcome?

How do blacks reconcile that and vote the other way?
All you say is true but owners of the democratic plantation own them and they are not allowed to leave. They are owned by the one percenters like George Soros and that billionaire fighter for the middle class downtrodden Nancy Pelosi who battles for the poor with her billionaire husband with a different last name.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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It's always funny to me when conservatives wonder aloud why black people won't vote for them. Shall we have a history lesson?

Prior to the 1960's, black people were a pretty reliable Republican constituency. That was Lincoln's legacy. Democrats had a lock on racist white people in The South- that was the Confederacy's legacy.

Then Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. Southerners were predictably LIVID (you know- because 'their' president had just given black people some rights). As LBJ put it: "We have lost the South for a generation"

And since then, racist white southerners (formerly DixieCrats) have almost universally switched over to the Republican Party.

So when somebody asks why don't these very christian black people vote for the self-appointed God's Own Party... well it just proves that they either don't know or actively ignore history.
Except, they didn't. The South continued to vote almost solid Democrat straight into the 1990's. The racist white southerners continued to be Democrats until they died off and were eventually overtaken by the next generation.

This process had actually been going on for some time, which was actually necessary for there to be enough support for the Democrats to propose the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Even still, the Republicans still voted for it by larger percentages than the Democrats did:

Civil Rights Act of 1964:

The original House version:
  • Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
  • Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:
  • Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version:
  • Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
  • Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:
  • Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%)
  • Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)

Actually, black people did not switch their allegiance because of the Democrat's support of the Civil Rights Act, it was because of their passage of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs, also of the 1960's. Those the Republicans very certainly did not support.

But black people did, in mass. It was a straight up political buy-off of unprecedented scope and scale. But it was also a mirage, a political "bill of goods" that was sold to them, as we have seen in the 60 years since. For their political fealty, they got the inner city ghettos, some of the worst schools on Earth, economic stagnation and poverty, welfare, food stamps, and generations of lives wasted in despair. And no change on the horizon, even with the nation's first black (Democrat) president currently in office.

What could be more tragic. Honestly. What a horrible, tragic waste.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:37 PM
 
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The question is why don't black people vote for Republicans.

Well they DID vote for Republicans consistently for about a CENTURY. Until LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and caused a political realignment. That same political realignment is why the South has consistently and inexorably moved toward the GOP since the Civil Rights Act was signed.

Saying "Nuh-Uh!!" isn't much of an argument.


So what's it like voting for the party that the VAST majority of white racists support?
You get an A in History. You get an F in current events.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:40 PM
 
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SMH @ this tripe.

I'm black and don't vote or care for either party, but the simple fact is that the one-sided voting pattern in the black community has to do with perception. The GOP is simply perceived a racist party, and it's not because they don't pander, race-bait or believe in hand outs. It's because they make and support ludicrous remarks like this.
"Let me tell you something else I know about the Negro..."

Yep. You nailed it.
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