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View Poll Results: Hillary was right or wrong?
I lean left - I condemn Hillary's use of a private email account for official business 32 23.88%
I lean left - I defend Hillary's use of a private email account for officoal business 33 24.63%
I lean right - I condemn Hillary's use of a private email account for official business 64 47.76%
I lean right - I defend Hillary's use of a private email account for officoal business 5 3.73%
Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-03-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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Yes, imagine following the same protocols your predecessors did. How stupid.
Except that she didn't. People like you are the sameones that we're whining, bitching and moaning for Bush officials to be jailed over the same thing back in 2007.

Oh here from the Vox. You remember Ezra Klein don't you.

Hillary Clinton's personal email account looks bad now. But it was even worse at the time. - Vox

Keep on with the Liberal hypocrisy.
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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Her staff never even set up an email account for her. Even a Wal-Mart dept. manager has a corporate email account set up. A bit ridiculous to defend this, don't you think?
Do I wish that our entire government actually behaved thoughtfully? That people in power paid heed to the law, and why laws are passed, and what the intention of the law is? Yes. I wish those in power, and those who seek to lead us, actually behaved like thoughtful, responsible adults.

Do I understand that Hillary Clinton did exactly what her predecessors did, thoughtlessly following their lead? Yes.

So while I'm loathe to defend this, I'm more loathe to let people attack Mrs Clinton while hypocritically ignoring that all Mrs Clinton did was follow the precedent set by previous Secretaries of State.

I WANT our government to be as transparent as possible. To operate to the highest standards. I want the people who serve us, the people, to have the highest moral and ethical standards. I'm just reconciled to the fact that what I want is an uphill battle, and in the meantime, partisan politics are a part of the problem.
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:45 PM
 
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Yes, I was likely going to vote for her, and I was absolutely sure she would be the next President--especially given the chaos in the Republican party.

Now? No, I will not vote for her. I am tired of this constant "it's okay, it was only a minor issue. Others before her did it". No! it was wrong. Charlie Wrangle didn't know the rent laws. The Governor in Virginia didn't know it was wrong to accept bribes? Chris Dodd didn't know it was wrong to take favors from the people he was supposed to supervise. Nancy Pelosi's husband didn't see a conflict when he was hired to sell (and bought!) real estate belonging to the government?

We have laws. People are expected to obey them. We have a moral and ethical code. People, especially people in positions of authority, are expected to adhere to it, not look for reasons why they knowingly violated it "but it's okay because it was only a minor lapse'.

NO! I am done with (especially) politicians who seemingly can't tell right from wrong. The LAW says you MUST use government email for government communications. If you did not do that, you have broken the law. More, in the case of Hillary, it gives the appearance that she knowingly tried to hide her communications (which she will, "aw shucks", deny) knowing full well that her private email account would not be archived as required by the law.
Exactly how I feel!
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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Except that she didn't. People like you are the sameones that we're whining, bitching and moaning for Bush officials to be jailed over the same thing back in 2007.

Oh here from the Vox. You remember Ezra Klein don't you.

Hillary Clinton's personal email account looks bad now. But it was even worse at the time. - Vox

Keep on with the Liberal hypocrisy.
Except she did.
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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Do I wish that our entire government actually behaved thoughtfully? That people in power paid heed to the law, and why laws are passed, and what the intention of the law is? Yes. I wish those in power, and those who seek to lead us, actually behaved like thoughtful, responsible adults.

Do I understand that Hillary Clinton did exactly what her predecessors did, thoughtlessly following their lead? Yes.

So while I'm loathe to defend this, I'm more loathe to let people attack Mrs Clinton while hypocritically ignoring that all Mrs Clinton did was follow the precedent set by previous Secretaries of State.

I WANT our government to be as transparent as possible. To operate to the highest standards. I want the people who serve us, the people, to have the highest moral and ethical standards. I'm just reconciled to the fact that what I want is an uphill battle, and in the meantime, partisan politics are a part of the problem.
Condi Rice was the first SoS that had to deal with the new law and she did. Hillary was second and she didn't.

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Old 03-03-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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Oh and for the she turned the emails over crowd. Her complicit minions got to choose which emails to turn over.
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:47 PM
 
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Oh and for the she turned the emails over crowd. Her complicit minions got to choose which emails to turn over.
Once again, I send you a text from my phone to your phone. I delete the text from my phone. When I do that, does it delete the text from your phone, too?
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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Except she did.
Keep on lying to yourself if it make you feel better.
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:48 PM
 
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Exactly how I feel!
You were going to vote for Hillary before this? Surely you jest.
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:50 PM
 
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Once again, I send you a text from my phone to your phone. I delete the text from my phone. When I do that, does it delete the text from your phone, too?
Once again, how do you get a FOIA request for someone's personal email? So if the gov employee deletes it or it isn't archived, how do you get the original from a private account?
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