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I'm not so sure you or I would get in trouble for this, Sour. If we were low level State employees conducting official business on personal email, this would only become an issue if it caused a problem. If it didn't cause any international incidents, I think we'd get away with it. If caught, we'd be told not to do it again and that would be that.
Yes, imagine following the same protocols your predecessors did. How stupid.
Her staff never even set up an email account for her. Even a Wal-Mart dept. manager has a corporate email account set up. A bit ridiculous to defend this, don't you think?
Yes. Government-provided e-mail accounts weren't properly archived. Servers evidently crashed. The redundancy built into the system evidently crashed. Not a good thing.
A different situation altogether, though.
Nope. They said they had no back-ups or redundancy. Then, upon FOIA lawsuit and court order, they magically found the backup tapes with some, but not all, of Lois Lerner's emails. Hillary's emails are not on government servers. It's clear that given the IRS experience, there are limitations on retrieving ALL emails. But, even if they were able to query the recipients of Hillary's emails.....under what premise do you judge that the Dept. of State doesn't have the same redundancy and/or backup problem as the IRS?
Ted, let me be frank. I'm having a REALLY hard time believing you are sincere here. So you were going to vote for her until email-gate? Did you turn on Bill back in the 90s when he got that $100 haircut on the tarmac?
Yes, I was likely going to vote for her, and I was absolutely sure she would be the next President--especially given the chaos in the Republican party.
Now? No, I will not vote for her. I am tired of this constant "it's okay, it was only a minor issue. Others before her did it". No! it was wrong. Charlie Wrangle didn't know the rent laws. The Governor in Virginia didn't know it was wrong to accept bribes? Chris Dodd didn't know it was wrong to take favors from the people he was supposed to supervise. Nancy Pelosi's husband didn't see a conflict when he was hired to sell (and bought!) real estate belonging to the government?
We have laws. People are expected to obey them. We have a moral and ethical code. People, especially people in positions of authority, are expected to adhere to it, not look for reasons why they knowingly violated it "but it's okay because it was only a minor lapse'.
NO! I am done with (especially) politicians who seemingly can't tell right from wrong. The LAW says you MUST use government email for government communications. If you did not do that, you have broken the law. More, in the case of Hillary, it gives the appearance that she knowingly tried to hide her communications (which she will, "aw shucks", deny) knowing full well that her private email account would not be archived as required by the law.
Her staff never even set up an email account for her. Even a Wal-Mart dept. manager has a corporate email account set up. A bit ridiculous to defend this, don't you think?
If she thought she was doing something seriously underhanded, she probably would have covered her tracks better .. like I dunno, perhaps creating an official account as a decoy, right?
I can read your passion for this. Still, it's just not going to rouse the moderates much. Go ahead and keep trying to make "email-gate" happen, and please don't be disappointed when it doesn't.
It should.
Look email is inherently insecure during the transmission of it, it can be intercepted and anyone with a modicum of technical ability can dissect the raw data and derive the message. However there are means of sending emails with crypto secured content making this less than efficient.
That all said, the best means of obtaining someone's email data is to obtain it from their mail server. While I don't have a huge amount of faith in government run and secured email servers, they provide two things.
Firstly the content on them can only be accessed by government employees, for example Gmail is accessible by both the google employees in Gmail, and googlebot (which indexes mail content, though it's not publicly accessible), Hotmail/Outlook is accessible by Microsoft Employees in those divisions (and any other tools they apply), even a mom and pop shop, the administrator of that system can view the content of an inbox, do you want someone who is a random employee at some email hosting company reading the content of the Secretary of State's inbox? This is a huge security hole for the Secretary of State to be using a non-government email system for business related email, anyone doing this in the commercial sector with an ounce of IT savvy would be liable to be fired.
Secondly they're secured according to the same standards as any other government run system, this may or may not be more secure than a typical commercial email server, but it's consistent, known, and meets the criteria laid down by government IT standards. This means that unauthorized access has to bypass those known standards, which may or may not be present on a personally chosen email host.
That's all before we get into FOIA, the FRA and NARA.
We wouldn't be having this conversation if for instance email between the US Secretary of State and an Embassy was released that showed the US acting in a manner that contradicted it's official position. We know that the Benghazi hearings have received 300 emails from her account (it's how we know she was using a personal account, not a .gov account). The commission have declined to state whether they will be made public or not, which implies they're not sure whether the information is of a sensitive nature, that alone should give one pause.
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Oh look ANOTHER Hillary scandal the media will downplay
