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Old 03-10-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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Seems to me that this shows a dangerous level of disunity to a potential adversary. We might disagree at home, but showing our splits abroad is just stupid.

The GOP has shown themselves repeatedly to be ideological zealots who cannot see beyond their immediate self-interests to realize they are part of a national government. This is really beyond the pale.
Do you Obots really believe what you write and say? Honestly?

Everything Dear King O does is about his self-interest and the further destruction of this country and you libs lap up his lies like kittens at the milk bowl. Meow meow feed us more Dear Master O.
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Old 03-10-2015, 02:43 PM
 
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America has a terrible reputation for not minding its own business abroad.
This used to not be the case and it is against the original principles of our country.
We've been usurped by a control group that wields American power in its own hands
instead of in the hands of the American people.
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Old 03-10-2015, 02:54 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Lol @ how much Conservatives will twist reality.

1984 Dems say "this is not an attempt to undermine policy," Conservatives see undermining policy.

2015 Rep that wrote the letter says "this is an attempt to undermine policy," Conservatives don't see undermining policy.

It's not even hypocrisy at this point, just straight up lunacy.
Where does that letter say "this is an attempt to undermine policy?"

In 1984, it clearly was an attempt to undermine policy. There was no other reason.
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Iran can read our Constitution online as easily as we can read theirs. Our Constitution plainly spells out that treaties require advice and consent of the Senate. The Senate pointing out the very temporary nature of any treaty/agreement they do not give majority consent to is being intellectually honest with the party with whom Obama is doing his solo entreating with.

Whatever deal he agrees to is nothing more than chit chat without the Senate's approval. It's called "legislative check on executive power" and it's by design, on purpose, working as intended.

It may seem like bad form, but the One Man Show aspects of Obama's presidency, especially in his second term, are so unprecedented, that we are seeing really unprecedented responses from the branch that is constitutionally required to check his power. Unlike Iran, we have no supreme leader.
If Iran can easily read our constitution then what was the purpose of the letter, at least they could be accurate since they saw fit to send a letter that had errors as pointed out by the Iranians.

This is a deal between 7 nations, I think that is more than just "chit-chat". Yes trying to subvert sensitive negotiations of this magnitude is not the way our country is supposed to work. They are not presently part of the negotiations, nor is the House of Commons or the German Legislature but they didn't take issue.

This is good material for Jon Stewart but bad for our country, luckily the Iranians saw this for what it was, politics and grandstanding.
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:04 PM
 
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If Iran can easily read our constitution then what was the purpose of the letter, at least they could be accurate since they saw fit to send a letter that had errors as pointed out by the Iranians.

This is a deal between 7 nations, I think that is more than just "chit-chat". Yes trying to subvert sensitive negotiations of this magnitude is not the way our country is supposed to work. They are not presently part of the negotiations, nor is the House of Commons or the German Legislature but they didn't take issue.

This is good material for Jon Stewart but bad for our country, luckily the Iranians saw this for what it was, politics and grandstanding.
Ah, the Iranians. The final arbiters for common sense and understanding.
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:11 PM
 
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The first thing that came to mind was "Self Righteous".
They insult the Iranians by attempting to school them. This lack of respect for an adversary speaks volumes about the authors.
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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Republicans won't be satisfied until they break the nation. It's becoming clearer and clearer. They have on respect for the rule of law and the American way.
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Ah, the Iranians. The final arbiters for common sense and understanding.
Unfortunately when it comes to the GOP, the Iranians seem to have more common sense than them, but then again, that isn't a hard task.
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Beyond breaking the law, it shows just how divided they truly WANT the nation to be but if we were to take public opinion I doubt they could net the majority votes needed to support a war with Iran or the funding needed to provide Israeli land grabbers the funding needed to do so. Very wired these politicians.
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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Wow this is really blowing up in their faces haha. Do they realize how stupid this was?
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