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Old 03-17-2015, 03:07 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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And neither do activists judges, that is why we need to think long and hard before we vote in the next election.
Oh?

Are you one of those people who praise state and federal judges, circuit court of appeals judges, Supreme Court justices as upholding the Constitution and ruling for liberty and justice when you agree with them, but denounce the very same members of the judiciary as "activists" when you disagree with their rulings???

 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:10 PM
 
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Just an FYI, no good judge should take into account anyone's opinion.
But that is exactly what they are doing.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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Great post! Here is another along the same lines, by a gay man:


Who explains to the young daughters when they reach an age how to deal with their growing breasts, their periods, boyz sniffing around them demanding b**w jobs, how you stay chaste, how to deal with the meanness of other little girls, what PMS feels like and how to deal with it, the expectations of motherhood, what to expect with a baby in your belly, how you feel with various kinds of birth control, how other women feel and what is going on almost every day of your uniquely female life? Huh? How is it two men think they have what it takes to raise a female child, or two women think they have a clue about the pressures of being a boy and dealing with the pressures of testosterone, male bonding, etc.

Oh yes, it’s so very politically incorrect to dare suggest that a child is entitled to parents
of both sexes, but in point of fact, THAT IS HOW NATURE INTENDED human
children are raised. Sorry, I know it is a hanging offense to suggest in
this oversensitive age that child raising and homosexuality might have even
the slightest hint of a problem, but then of course who gives a **** about
children when we’re talking about OUR RIGHTS?
Well, then, what do you propose we do with all of the single parents who are raising children of the opposite sex? Should they be removed from their homes by the government?

Sound to me like this has nothing to do with your concern for children, because if it did you would want them to be raised by parents who want them and will love them, no matter what gender they are. This is more about YOU being uncomfortable in a changing society than it is about you being worried for the welfare of kids.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:19 PM
 
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But that is exactly what they are doing.
No, if you pulled your head out of the "god says gays can't be married sand" you'd see judges on both sides of the fence (conservative & progressive) are interpreting the Constitution the same way. For SSM. They are not taking into account opinion.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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But that is exactly what they are doing.

Have you actually read any of the Judicial decisions that have tossed the bans? They are pretty much all invoking the 14th Amendment.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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Have you actually read any of the Judicial decisions that have tossed the bans? They are pretty much all invoking the 14th Amendment.

Activist = Doesn't agree with my view point.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:27 PM
 
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But that is exactly what they are doing.


For your pipe:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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Nope, what matters is the moral values of the county I live in. I don't want to live in one where I have to explain to my grandchildren why two men or two women can introduce their partners as their husbands/wives. It is sick.

Bigotry? Gimme a break. Why is it you "gay rights" crowd must frame everything in terms of "bigotry"? Is that the only way you can make your case?

Fine. I am a pure bigot and proud of it.
Then you should consider moving because, if you live in the US, two men or two women can already introduce their partners as husbands/wives.

That is the beauty of freedom.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:34 PM
 
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So you need it to say on paper man and woman to satisfy you, to validate your marriage? A marriage between a man and woman is still that with marriage equality, how does allowing same sex couples to marry change that? It does not.
Don't try to change the subject --- whether ssm law redefines marriage.

It does, in a way we both support. Our difference is that you won't admit the changed definition.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 03:41 PM
 
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Don't try to change the subject --- whether ssm law redefines marriage.

It does, in a way we both support. Our difference is that you won't admit the changed definition.
Was the definition changed when mixed race marriages became legal?


What or who defines marriage?

Is the marriage of one man to twenty women still a marriage?
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