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How many military operations are publicized nationally?
Probably the big ones. The smaller ones are generally just local news material to let the local civilians know not to panic if they hear "attack sirens" and such coming from the base. Operation Red Flag is a huge exercise that takes place every year in the Nevada Desert. That's a huge one.
The size of this exercise is really no big mystery as it covers an area approximately the size of Iran. Since it covers three states (or is it four?) it's no huge surprise that it might make national news.
I really don't think Jade Helm has anything to do with the Middle East.
They are practicing for taking over towns and roads, dealing with pockets
of non-compliant civilians IN A CIVILIAN setting while people sleep.
This is about domestic operations. "Secure the Human Domain" is the
official motto. You don't think that's spooky ? How about the sabot shoe
placed right smack dab in the middle of the official logo ? That sabot shoe
represents sabotage. Something is going on. Remember that the truth
is on a "need to know" basis. It only takes a few operatives to make
terrible things happen. Boston Marathon was a drill with bombs going off
as it happened. So was London. Sorry but you don't prepare an army for
war on foreign soil by running operations in civilian American neighborhoods.
I really don't think Jade Helm has anything to do with the Middle East.
They are practicing for taking over towns and roads, dealing with pockets
of non-compliant civilians IN A CIVILIAN setting while people sleep.
This is about domestic operations. "Secure the Human Domain" is the
official motto. You don't think that's spooky ? How about the sabot shoe
placed right smack dab in the middle of the official logo ? That sabot shoe
represents sabotage. Something is going on.
Yeah, because what we learned from our invasion of Iraq was that the civilians were so compliant and caused no problems. We easily walked into every town, drove down every road, and never had pockets of non-compliant citizens there.
where exactly are any of these "800 internment camps"?
they're "Secret Camps" you dummy. Nobody is supposed to know.
I know what's really going on. But I can't tell you.
Oh, what the hay. President Obama is going to give Texas back to the Mexicans.
We need the Military there to deal with the Armed Texas Chipotle Brigade.
How many military operations are publicized nationally?
Usually only the ones that the conspiracy nuts latch on to, and the Military didn't publicize nationally. They publicized locally to avoid confusion. They asked for and got local and state permission (those pesky elected officials you voted for).
These exercises happen all the time. I have personally had to work around historic training sites in the Colorado Desert left from when Patton prepared his troops for North Africa during WWII. Similar excersises happen all over the USA at various times depending on the type of terrain being trained for. From the swamps of southern Georgia and north Florida (Operation Bold Alligator, training for amphibious landings and SEAL excercises) to an unknown exercise involving an unused school in Houston. In the latter, they did not notify the locals prior, so it resulted in understandable panic.
It didn't go national until the conservative talk radio nuts took it national.
The irony is that many of these obliviots screaming about martial law and such probably sport "support our troops" bumper stickers.
Usually only the ones that the conspiracy nuts latch on to, and the Military didn't publicize nationally. They publicized locally to avoid confusion. They asked for and got local and state permission (those pesky elected officials you voted for).
These exercises happen all the time. I have personally had to work around historic training sites in the Colorado Desert left from when Patton prepared his troops for North Africa during WWII. Similar excersises happen all over the USA at various times depending on the type of terrain being trained for. From the swamps of southern Georgia and north Florida (Operation Bold Alligator, training for amphibious landings and SEAL excercises) to an unknown exercise involving an unused school in Houston. In the latter, they did not notify the locals prior, so it resulted in understandable panic.
It didn't go national until the conservative talk radio nuts took it national.
The progressive left keeps attempting to avoid that Jade Helm has named the whole of two known-conservative states, Utah and Texas, as "Hostile," as well as inclusion under the same rubrik of the notoriously archconservative bottom tip of California. Which is unprecedented.
The geographical scope is also unprecedented.
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Originally Posted by jwkilgore
The irony is that many of these obliviots screaming about martial law and such probably sport "support our troops" bumper stickers.
Don't confuse neocons (aka leftist Republicans/Rockefeller Republicans) with liberty. They are of the same left wing as the progressive left that giggles at concerns over domestic militarization and federalization of police.
City-data readership now has a new understanding of the authoritarianism that the progressive left has always stood for. A left that demands oppressive police- and surveillance-state in order to ensure compliance with collectivist social engineering.
1. Right wing conspiracy nuts are endlessly entertaining.
2. No new middle east war on the horizon unless whatever bozo the Pubs nominate wins the White House next year. If that happens (which seems very unlikely) then yes, we'll soon be tangled in another mindless unwinnable quagmire. It'll be 2003 all over again, only even dumber this time.
1. Right wing conspiracy nuts are endlessly entertaining.
2. No new middle east war on the horizon unless whatever bozo the Pubs nominate wins the White House next year. If that happens (which seems very unlikely) then yes, we'll soon be tangled in another mindless unwinnable quagmire. It'll be 2003 all over again, only even dumber this time.
And you probably thought that wasn't possible.
The adventurous, boundaries oblivious* progressive-left knowingly destroyed a stable Libya; armed ISIS in Benghazi; is trying to destabilize Syria as you write.
The adventurous, boundaries oblivious* progressive-left knowingly destroyed a stable Libya; armed ISIS in Banghazi; is trying to destabilize Syria as you write.
Ummm.... When I was in the military we did exercises all the time. I traveled to Korea to participate in an all out nuclear/biological/chemical warfare exercise in which I wore full MOPP 4 gear in July for 3 straight weeks, 16 hours a day, because we were "practicing" an unhinged North Korea scenario.
When I was in Arkansas, we practiced by setting up a remote part of the base as a forward operating base in the Middle East and we invited the local civilians to try and "penetrate" the base. The locals loved it and we had a lot of fun too. We were training on proper use of force, the correct way to deal with lone wolf style attacks, etc...
Just about any person who has ever been in the military can tell you they participated in these types of exercises in one form or fashion. Each exercise is different from the next and most of them depend on the mission at hand. It is really no different than a professional baseball team practicing different scenarios in spring training. As a military leader, you come up with as many different scenarios as you possibly can to give your entire command practice at potential scenarios.
Usually, these types of exercises are designed to test the limitations of every facet of the force. So, your mechanics and pilots will have the flight line bombarded with chemical agents (simulated of course) while the command and control center comes under some major hacking/virus attack, and the front gate to the base comes under major attack... And the toilets are all broke.. Or something like that...
Just because you practice something in the military doesn't mean that an imminent war or event is going to happen. There are tons of different scenarios to play out and that's part of what makes an effective fighting force.
What you're talking about practicing in a remote part of a base in Arkansas and something this size are two different things.
What's sad is how many no longer due any critical thinking.
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